Ep. 4 | The Power of Intentionality for Working Mothers
The salient point of this podcast episode is the exploration of the dual roles of a working mother and the unique challenges she faces. I, along with my esteemed co-hosts, engage in a profound dialogue with our special guest, Sarah, who embodies the experience of balancing a full-time career in real estate with the responsibilities of motherhood. Throughout our conversation, we delve into the strategies that Sarah employs to manage her time effectively, emphasizing the necessity of intentionality and support systems in navigating the complexities of her life. Additionally, we address the societal perceptions surrounding working mothers and the importance of fostering a supportive community. This episode serves as a reminder that every mother's journey is distinct, yet there exists a shared camaraderie in the pursuit of balance and fulfillment.
Takeaways:
- It is essential for working mothers to identify and articulate their personal motivations, or 'whys', which drive their professional and domestic pursuits.
- Cultivating intentional relationships with supportive peers and mentors is crucial for navigating the challenges of being a full-time working mother.
- Effective time management, including the practice of time blocking, significantly enhances one's ability to balance work and family commitments without overwhelming stress.
- Maintaining a structured household environment is paramount, as it fosters both productivity and peace within the family unit, allowing for quality interactions amid busy schedules.
Transcript
Well, hello and welcome to the Wiser podcast where we might not be qualified, but we are commanded to give you advice.
Speaker A:I'll be your host, Megan.
Speaker A:And today with me I have Ren and Stacy.
Speaker A:And we have a very special guest with us today.
Speaker A:We have Sarah with us today.
Speaker A:Can you say hello, Sarah?
Speaker B:Hello, Sarah.
Speaker A:So we have.
Speaker A:We have Sarah with us today.
Speaker A:And like I've said in previous episodes, I really want to give a voice to as many different types of moms as possible.
Speaker A:So we have a lot of relatability here on the podcast.
Speaker A:And so we have brought Sarah in to talk to us about being a full time mom as well as a full time career woman.
Speaker A:So Sarah is a very successful realtor in our area and actually, I did google you and she shows up with all, like, all the top agents.
Speaker A:So she's very successful, very good at what she does.
Speaker C:Yeah, she's a girl boss.
Speaker A:She is.
Speaker A:She's a girl boss for sure.
Speaker A:Beautiful, beautiful person inside and out.
Speaker A:And her and her husband also own some short term rental properties, about seven of those.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And she has a little girl.
Speaker A:And so she is in the throes of working a full time job and running a full time house and being a full time mom, full time wife.
Speaker A:So we are so excited to have you on today to give us a different perspective.
Speaker B:Well, thank you for having me.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker A:So thank you.
Speaker A:So if you would, just for our listeners who don't know you, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker B:Well, we'll just do like the Cliff Notes.
Speaker B:I'm from Chattanooga.
Speaker B:I'm a mother to three kids, so I have grown boys.
Speaker B:Tyler, who's 24, Gavin who's 22.
Speaker B:And then we adopted our daughter Josie, who just turned seven.
Speaker B:We also have a grandbaby who's eight months old and then another one on the way.
Speaker B:So there's.
Speaker B:Yes, all the ages.
Speaker B:Yes, full.
Speaker B:Well, they're not all in my house, but just Josie.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's a very full, very busy season.
Speaker B:So I was a single mom.
Speaker B:We'll just kind of go back to Tyler and Gavin.
Speaker B:I was a single mom for a few years and then I met my husband Jake, and they were 2 and 5.
Speaker B:So Jake has been there the whole time, you know, so he's, he's raised them and he was definitely a godsend.
Speaker B:And then, you know, we got called to adoption and so we can kind of get into.
Speaker B:Get into.
Speaker B:That's part of my why.
Speaker B:Of why I got into real estate.
Speaker B:And he'll Always say, like, what was my big why?
Speaker B:But it was a calling, you know?
Speaker B:So anyways, we got called to adopt, and then we, you know, we got our little dream girl, her little cherry on top.
Speaker B:Josie.
Speaker B:But, yeah, so that's kind of me in a nutshell, if we want to talk about work now and kind of how all that trans.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So I was a hairdresser when I was 23, I started.
Speaker C:That's why your hair always looks amazing.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:But I love.
Speaker B:I loved it.
Speaker B:And, yeah, so I started.
Speaker B:I started doing hair when I was 23, and I did that for 10 years, so just building a business.
Speaker B:And I was a single mom, you know, for, like, a few years doing that.
Speaker B:And it was.
Speaker B:It was hard, but I had support, and my dad was super, super supportive and really helped with, like, pick up the boys, you know, and all of that.
Speaker B:But I just did.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:And I homeschooled for, like.
Speaker A:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Three years?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I homeschooled and.
Speaker B:Or attempted to, I should say, until they got into.
Speaker B:They ended up going to arts and science here.
Speaker B:But anyway, so juggling that and working, you know, four days a week in the salon, I played music.
Speaker B:So, like, that was at night, which is how I met Jake.
Speaker B:So I played music, and I would take the boys with me or we'd get a sitter.
Speaker B:And then I had an Etsy store, Southern Whimsicality, which is still.
Speaker B:You could still look it up.
Speaker B:It was really fun.
Speaker B:And then I did ebay.
Speaker B:So, like, I've always been.
Speaker B:I've always been, like, an entrepreneur.
Speaker B:I've always been a hustler, if you want to call it that.
Speaker B:That just can't not do anything.
Speaker B:I love to create, like, streams of income.
Speaker B:And so, I mean, I did it as a single mom with two kids, and.
Speaker B:But that's just how I'm wired.
Speaker B:I mean, that is how God just design.
Speaker B:My brain is, you know, to never stop.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Always being the creative outlet.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I really enjoyed that.
Speaker B:Like, I loved picking and finding all these fun things.
Speaker B:And I mean, it.
Speaker B:It was necessary, Like, I had to do it, you know, and.
Speaker B:And that's how I supported my boys for those years until Jake and I got married and all of that.
Speaker B:So I did the hair thing.
Speaker B:Obviously, that was my main source of income, and I built a really good, thriving, you know, business as a hairdresser.
Speaker B:And then I was approached to become a realtor, and I had zero interest in doing that, but I knew that I needed like, more resources.
Speaker B:And I couldn't do that standing behind a chair.
Speaker B:And so I was like, well, yeah, I mean, I'll look into it.
Speaker B:And I mean, sales is sales, so, like, whether you're selling hair products.
Speaker B:I worked at Victoria's Secret, and I was like, top sales there.
Speaker B:So fine.
Speaker B:I only worked there because I was getting married, and I just wanted to.
Speaker B:I just did that for a season and.
Speaker B:But I actually loved it.
Speaker B:And I was top sales.
Speaker B:They're like.
Speaker B:They begged me to be managers.
Speaker B:No, no, I don't want that.
Speaker B:This is just.
Speaker B:This is just temporary.
Speaker B:But sales is sales.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so I could sell anything.
Speaker B:And then so I was like, okay, I'll give.
Speaker B:I'll give real estate a try.
Speaker B:And I mean, it is just the Lord, like, when I tell people how I got into real estate and, oh, how'd you get started?
Speaker B:I'm like, I mean, it's just the Lord, like, it wasn't me at all, but my first week license, and I was a hairdresser.
Speaker B:One of my clients was.
Speaker B:Wanted me to list their house.
Speaker B:I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker B:My broker was not helpful.
Speaker B:And so I literally pretty much guessed, like, best guess, I think it's worth this.
Speaker B:And got under contract immediately.
Speaker B:Appraisal came in, like, $30,000 low.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:And the appraiser literally called me and said a bad word.
Speaker B:And he was like, what were you thinking?
Speaker B:I was like, I just think it's worth that.
Speaker B:And the buyers paid it.
Speaker B:Like, they bought the.
Speaker B:It's still closed.
Speaker B:I'm like, well, I mean, that's literally just how it was first week.
Speaker B:Do you know how hard it is for a realtor to get a listing, like a new realtor?
Speaker B:So God has just shown so much favor on my business.
Speaker B:And, you know, I think he.
Speaker B:He has called me personally to be this working mom, right.
Speaker B:Because of the flock.
Speaker B:We tend to, like, I have a.
Speaker B:I have.
Speaker B:I have a big flock that I have.
Speaker B:I'm responsible for, you know, with just extended family and all that.
Speaker B:And so when I want to slow down or I'm just like, I'm just tired, then he just reminds me, like, why I'm doing this.
Speaker B:It's not.
Speaker B:It's not for a bigger house or, like, it's because I have a lot of responsibility, not just with my own kids, but, like, nephews and, you know, and.
Speaker B:And it's an honor because I'm like, he's clearly gifted me.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, I don't think he's gifted me, like, he just brings me the business.
Speaker A:He's had that favor this whole time.
Speaker B:I mean, it just blows my mind.
Speaker B:But, you know, everybody's not called.
Speaker B:Every mom isn't called to work.
Speaker B:Right, right.
Speaker B:You know, and so this has been my calling.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I have to just remind myself a lot, like, I'm tired, you know, but then he shows me, like, the.
Speaker B:I'm doing this, you know, like, just.
Speaker B:And it just, it just, it's very humbling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyways, very cool.
Speaker A:And you're willing to be a vessel and have an obedient heart.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And that you feel called to be a working mom.
Speaker A:I feel like there sometimes is a, like a gap between moms that stay home and moms that work full time.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I don't really know that gap there.
Speaker A:When I look at, like, my collective friends, I've got friends across the board and two friends that do homeschooling, that do private school, public school, all the things.
Speaker A:And I just don't think it's fair to put any woman in a box and be like, well, if you're a Christian or if you do this, this.
Speaker A:This is kind of the, the mold that you have to fit in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that you can feel called to be a full time career woman and feel called to be a stay at home mom, Feel called to homeschool like Stacy.
Speaker A:I felt called to put my kids in public school in the middle of the pandemic.
Speaker A:It's just, we can't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:We can't put each other in a box.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And I don't know who it is that pits us against each other, but do you ever feel that, that there's like a pitting against, like, being a working mom versus being someone who stays home?
Speaker B:I think I definitely used to.
Speaker B:I absolutely don't now.
Speaker B:And I think that just comes with, like, confidence in the Lord and knowing what he's called to do.
Speaker B:That I'm all right, whatever, you know, think what you want.
Speaker B:But for sure, when I was younger, in my 20s, and really, I mean, you know, in your 20s, a mom, a wife, and just trying to work, trying to figure it all out.
Speaker B:It is hard.
Speaker B:And then, you know, coming to women's events, I just went.
Speaker B:I was like, quit with the homeschool stay at home mom.
Speaker B:Always up there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like, I leave feeling like, what am I doing?
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm going against God's will or something because I should be at home.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You know, and that wasn't.
Speaker B:I didn't that wasn't an option for me and it wasn't what God was calling me to do.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:You know, so.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But I don't feel that way now.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because I'm confident in where I am, you know, And I know that it's so clear that this is what God has me do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker A:Well, that is awesome.
Speaker A:And you're very good at it.
Speaker B:Well, I appreciate it.
Speaker A:And you're very personable.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker A:Very easy to talk to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which you have to kind of have, I guess to be in sales, you have to have someone and.
Speaker A:Yeah, you've helped us.
Speaker A:I remember a few years ago, I was dying to get off that mountain that we live on.
Speaker A:And it was right in that we were homeschooling at the time.
Speaker A:Trying to figure out what we were going to do moving forward in school was going to be a big part of our decision making.
Speaker A:And I bugged you to death about houses.
Speaker B:That's what they all do.
Speaker B:It's my job.
Speaker A:So anyways, we looked at some fun houses.
Speaker A:We did look.
Speaker A:We did look at some really fun houses.
Speaker A:But yeah, we just, we chose to put our kids in public school.
Speaker A:So we stayed where we are.
Speaker A:And now we're stuck.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now I'm stuck.
Speaker A:Till those kids are out of high school, I'm stuck.
Speaker A:And I'm like, because, you know, I want to be on the lake.
Speaker A:I'm like, get me off this mountain and put me on a lake.
Speaker A:Like, that's going to be the end goal for me.
Speaker A:Settle that way maybe one day.
Speaker A:So you keep looking.
Speaker C:Keep.
Speaker A:Yeah, keep looking for those, those lake properties.
Speaker A:Keep me.
Speaker A:Yeah, keep us motivated.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:So my first kind of main question for you would be what do you wish more people knew about being a full time career woman and mom?
Speaker A:Whether it be challenges that you face, challenges early on that you were able to overcome.
Speaker A:If you could just kind of give our listeners, like maybe there's a woman who's recently been called to go into the workforce full time and she's trying to figure out, like I was talking to one of my girlfriends yesterday who's been a stay at home mom and she just got a full time job.
Speaker A:And so how, like, how do you start navigating through that when you're kind of entering in that season as a mom, what challenges you overcome?
Speaker A:Even as it relates to things in the home, you probably have a different structure of how things around the house get done.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because you are gone all day working full time.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And I know that we've got a lot.
Speaker A:Lot of new moms that are working full time and they're having children.
Speaker A:So could you kind of walk us through maybe some challenges or kind of in ways that your home is.
Speaker A:Managed to help you so that everything.
Speaker A:Everything rolls whether you're there or not?
Speaker A:Because I need that for my home, too.
Speaker A:I'm like, can things run even if I'm not here?
Speaker A:Like, how do we make that work?
Speaker B:Well, that's a personality thing, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Um, I would say I'm a pretty structured person.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:So there are challenges, but there are going to be more challenges with other people.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, so.
Speaker B:And I've always worked, so it wasn't really ever a transition.
Speaker B:Like, I've all.
Speaker B:I've just always worked, you know, and I've had to learn to.
Speaker B:To find the balance, which doesn't exist.
Speaker B:It's never the same.
Speaker B:It's different.
Speaker B:The balance is different, you know.
Speaker B:Oh, fine balance.
Speaker B:Well, balance looks different in every season.
Speaker B:And I just.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:And I'm 42.
Speaker B:Wow, 42.
Speaker B:And, you know, we're in a good groove right now.
Speaker B:Like, we're in a good groove.
Speaker B:There's times that it's chaotic, but I would just say, like, I love encouraging the working mom.
Speaker B:Like, it is possible.
Speaker B:Of course every situation is going to look different.
Speaker B:But, like, if it wasn't for my husband, which we are like, team.
Speaker B:I mean, we tag team.
Speaker B:We read each other's mind.
Speaker B:I mean, he's doing it, and we just work really, really well together.
Speaker B:And I mean, he does all the real estate stuff with me.
Speaker B:So, you know, he runs all of our Airbnb.
Speaker B:And so it's all about systems, leverage, support, and really prioritizing things.
Speaker B:Like, I live and die by my calendar.
Speaker B:I have to.
Speaker B:If I did not have a calendar and I did not, time block work would bleed into everything.
Speaker B:And I mean, I don't answer my phone.
Speaker B:A ringer is actually off all the time.
Speaker B:I do not answer my phone.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Because it would drive me crazy.
Speaker B:Like, I will look at my notifications.
Speaker B:It's like 300 notifications on a Friday.
Speaker B:That is.
Speaker B:I have to turn it off.
Speaker B:And that's a.
Speaker B:You could be like a workaholics.
Speaker B:I'm not a workaholic.
Speaker B:If you were a workaholic and you couldn't turn it off, it would destroy your family.
Speaker B:So you do have to find that balance on my.
Speaker B:And my clients know Wednesdays.
Speaker B:I'm not going on appointments.
Speaker B:You can call me.
Speaker B:I'll check it.
Speaker B:Wednesday's my day with my girl.
Speaker B:It's also now my day with my grandbaby, but that has been my play date with Josie.
Speaker B:So it's all time blocked when Jake picks up Josie or when he takes her.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And we just.
Speaker B:If I need an appointment, then, okay, I have this.
Speaker B:This is appointment time.
Speaker B:Other than that, it ain't happening.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So you have to honor, like, set boundaries.
Speaker B:You have to honor that time.
Speaker B:I don't really work on the weekends.
Speaker B:You know, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm blessed.
Speaker B:So every career is different.
Speaker B:I can make my own schedule for the most part.
Speaker B:And then just like, realizing that my time is valuable, and so I'm at friends.
Speaker B:I'm like, why do you not have a housekeeper?
Speaker B:You know, you need somebody cleaning your house.
Speaker B:That's leverage.
Speaker B:So a working mom, you've got to have leverage.
Speaker B:I'm not cleaning my house.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker B:I'm going to pay.
Speaker B:Like, that is not worth my time.
Speaker B:I'd rather sit and go outside with Josie than sit and spend three hours cleaning my house.
Speaker B:Not going to do it.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:We pick up.
Speaker B:Obviously we tidy every day, but we have a housekeeper.
Speaker B:We have a yard.
Speaker B:You know, we leverage those things that I don't have to do that.
Speaker B:I need to leverage out my time so I can spend time making money and then spend time with my family.
Speaker B:Like, that's all I'm gonna do is what makes me money and then spend time with my family.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna do those other things.
Speaker B:And so that's like, that's a little business, you know, you just.
Speaker B:You have to learn to do that.
Speaker B:I have friends that could pay a housekeeper.
Speaker B:They're like, I'm like, you need your time back.
Speaker B:Like, you need to do that.
Speaker B:So you just have to.
Speaker B:I looked at, okay, what do I make an hour chart?
Speaker B:Like, what's my hourly rate?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then what does this cost?
Speaker B:Leverage that out.
Speaker B:I'm not doing it.
Speaker B:And so I.
Speaker B:I spend my time with.
Speaker B:And I mean, I felt guilty at first doing that.
Speaker B:I'm like, always clean my own house.
Speaker B:I always, you know, I have my groceries delivered.
Speaker B:I rarely go to the grocery store.
Speaker B:That's the best thing I don't have.
Speaker B:That's not worth my time to do that.
Speaker C:That's a hack for every mom.
Speaker A:Also.
Speaker C:Just deliver your groceries.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:In pickup.
Speaker A:I mean, I do that staying home full time.
Speaker A:I love my pickup grocery.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's all about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Leverage.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It is possible.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:You can absolutely have a thriving business.
Speaker B:I mean, I run a company.
Speaker B:We can just call it that.
Speaker B:And sometimes I work 60 hours a week, and sometimes I work six hours a week.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so when I have that downtime, I try not to freak out, you know, I'm like.
Speaker B:Because I know it's gonna come.
Speaker B:Like, that's just how real estate is.
Speaker B:And I'm.
Speaker B:I'm consistently busy, but there's times where it's like.
Speaker B:And then there's times when it's.
Speaker B:In those times when it's slow.
Speaker B:I just chill, you know, it's like, you know what?
Speaker B:I'm not gonna feel guilty for not doing anything.
Speaker B:And for a person like me, I have to really, like, be intentional with those thoughts because I could constantly do something, and so I have to.
Speaker B:The Lord will usually make me sick to maybe slow down.
Speaker B:Like, I get sick.
Speaker B:And so I was like, okay, all right, I'll stop.
Speaker B:I'll lay down for a couple of days.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that's some.
Speaker B:Like, I have.
Speaker B:I will just go so hard.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It is very hard for me to relax.
Speaker B:But I've just learned, you know.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:When I have the slow time, I really try to just embrace that.
Speaker B:Take that time to just do nothing, kind of be bored, you know?
Speaker B:But I could not do it without, like, the support of my husband.
Speaker B:I mean, he is incredible.
Speaker B:I mean, incredible.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:He's just super, super supportive and super proud of kind of what we built, you know, and he's so encouraging.
Speaker B:And then, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I have great assistant and all those good things, so that helps.
Speaker B:But, like, it's possible.
Speaker B:Real estate's kind of a different beast.
Speaker B:Just depends on what you're doing, but with.
Speaker B:With leverage and the right support.
Speaker B:And then, you know, I started a small group because I've always been a passionate about the working mom.
Speaker B:And I started a small group probably six or seven years ago with just working women, not necessarily working moms, but just that, like, entrepreneur, you know, woman.
Speaker B:And so we've been together.
Speaker B:It's just like the same five girls.
Speaker B:We keep it really small.
Speaker B:And so they're a great encouragement, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so just kind of surrounding yourself with like minded people.
Speaker B:Not just that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, I have all sorts of friends just like you, but then I am intentional about cultivating those relationships and those settings.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Interesting that that's the word that's kind of coming to mind with you talking through all that is just being intentional.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:That's my favorite word.
Speaker A:Is it really, it's interesting.
Speaker B:Everything is intentional.
Speaker A:You're very intentional to the detail.
Speaker A:Very.
Speaker A:With your time and protecting that and realizing what's worth putting your time in and what's not.
Speaker B:I say that all the time.
Speaker A:That's very, very cool.
Speaker C:Okay, so we, you know, we had the schedule and it was in the morning and I remember being like, we have to tell Sarah.
Speaker C:Just knowing.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker C:I just know that about you.
Speaker C:I'm like, I know her time is intentional and we need to give her the biggest heads up we can so she can like, respect her.
Speaker C:And we've.
Speaker C:You've never told me any of that.
Speaker C:I just kind of knew she was.
Speaker B:Like one o' clock maybe I was like, well, I mean, I don't, can't.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But it's not wide open.
Speaker A:Yeah, but things shifted a little bit.
Speaker A:Can we do this?
Speaker B:But one attack was great.
Speaker B:I actually had a closing, so I wouldn't have been able to make it.
Speaker B:Oh, that's.
Speaker B:That showed up on my calendar.
Speaker B:But intentional is.
Speaker B:It is my favorite word.
Speaker B:And I have to.
Speaker B:Yeah, I have all sorts of little systems and I do feel like I've created a good balance where.
Speaker B:And you know, like being intentional about my health.
Speaker B:It's like, you can work, you can cultivate your peaceful home, you can have home cooked.
Speaker B:You can do all those things.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you have to be intentional.
Speaker B:You can.
Speaker B:Ain't just going to happen.
Speaker B:You're not going to just glide in and it's going to all fall.
Speaker B:You have to be so intentional about every minute.
Speaker B:You know, and some people, that freaks them out.
Speaker B:But like, I thrive in that environment.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I'm going to get really dialed in on this.
Speaker C:Do you have a specific time frame during the week that you're like, sit down and plan ahead or do you schedule out a whole month at a time?
Speaker C:Like, what does that look like for.
Speaker A:My calendar and gta paper calendar or digital one?
Speaker B:Digital.
Speaker A:Digital one.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, everybody's on it.
Speaker B:My husband's like, what is this?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, digital calendar.
Speaker B:And I have it time blocked where I'm going to the gym.
Speaker B:And so my assistant don't put anything on that.
Speaker B:Like they see my calendar and we don't schedule things on when I have Josie, when I, you know, my play dates, weekends, of course.
Speaker B:And then I have like a, you know, workout schedule.
Speaker B:And I mean, there's flexibility but like, for the most part, that has been my schedule for a lot of years where it's like it just.
Speaker B:That's the rhythm.
Speaker B:And, you know, if I don't get to the gym.
Speaker B:So I know a lot of moms, it's like, that can be on the back burner.
Speaker B:I have to do some sort of movement, like, for my mental health.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker B:I gotta.
Speaker B:I gotta just check out and exercise at least two days a week, you know.
Speaker B:I mean, I'd love to be four or five days a week, and that.
Speaker B:That just doesn't happen.
Speaker B:But even if it's just a quick walk and I mean, I will put work that is not priority.
Speaker B:Like, this is.
Speaker B:I have my priorities, you know, and so that is a priority, and I will just turn it off.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:And I have to be intentional about that.
Speaker B:Like, if I'm not feeling my best, if I'm not healthy, if I'm not eating right, then I'm not any good for anybody, you know.
Speaker B:And so I think a lot of moms don't.
Speaker B:They don't put their.
Speaker B:Their health or, you know, you know, I try to get a massage, not as often as I'd like, but like every couple of months, you know?
Speaker B:And so I really do take that time.
Speaker B:And I just know a lot of moms don't do that.
Speaker B:Like, you've got to take that time and re.
Speaker B:Energize and refresh or you're not good for anybody, you know?
Speaker B:And so again, it's that balance.
Speaker B:I'm not doing stuff every week, you know, like.
Speaker B:But I am intentional about that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:I always did that picture of when you're in an airplane and they go over all the safety stuff.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker D:Planes going down.
Speaker D:It's like you have to put your mask on, on right before you're helping your child if he was next to you, or you can't help them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:And it's like, that's so important.
Speaker D:You're investing in yourself so that you have capability, a capacity to then invest in those around you.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We're moms, and we are.
Speaker B:God created us to just pour out.
Speaker B:That's what we did.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not gonna show up at the gates of heaven refreshed.
Speaker B:Like, I'm gonna be expense.
Speaker B:I'm gonna just be completely spent.
Speaker B:And I want to be like, I don't want to show up rested and relaxed.
Speaker B:Like, I want to show up completely gassed.
Speaker B:Like, I did it.
Speaker A:I did it.
Speaker B:I made it, and I have poured it all out and I gave everything that I had, but I have to take time and refresh, whatever that looks like, you know, So I think it's important to figure out what that is for you to re.
Speaker B:Energize and make that a point to do that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:And now the pastor at our church, where we and I go to church together, he has, and I think he's like one of his staple messages that he goes through at least once a year, the filter.
Speaker A:A godly life is a filtered life.
Speaker A:And he has.
Speaker A:He has it filtered by God, family, work, ministry.
Speaker A:So tell us what your filter is like for a career mom, woman.
Speaker A:What does your filter like?
Speaker A:What are those things in line?
Speaker B:I mean, that's absolutely what I go by.
Speaker B:I have two of those filters and it's written in the front of my Bible too.
Speaker B:And so again, you know, with seasons, I mean, God's always first.
Speaker B:And, you know, there are seasons when I could get up, like when my boys were in school.
Speaker B:And like, Josie goes here, so it's a 30 minute drive for me.
Speaker B:So, like, I'm not getting up and having an hour and a half DB Time in my work.
Speaker B:It's just not the season.
Speaker B:And I don't feel guilty about that.
Speaker B:It's a season.
Speaker B:And like, I know that, but the radio's off in my car.
Speaker B:Most.
Speaker B:I never have the radio on that when I'm driving, which is a lot of the day.
Speaker B:That's my time with the Lord.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm constantly communicating with him.
Speaker B:I might not be sitting and reading scripture every morning, but I have routines.
Speaker B:Like, I love to listen to the One Year Bible podcast.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So most of the time I listen to that and then I am doing a one year chronological on my own, but it's not every day, you know, and that's okay.
Speaker B:Like right now, it's just not the season in the summer when I'm not running her to school.
Speaker A:Right, Right.
Speaker B:You know, we'll.
Speaker B:We'll have some more time or you know, have those slower mornings, but God for sure first, you know, and so I feel we can always do better.
Speaker B:But I do give myself a lot of grace.
Speaker B:You know, I have to.
Speaker B:I give myself a lot of grace.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm intentional about, you know, our small group, we're intentional about praying together every.
Speaker B:I cannot remember many nights where we all do not sit down and have dinner together, like every night.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like, that's another intentional, you know, sitting down, catching up, going over our highs and lows.
Speaker B:We always did that with our boys and we do that with Josie.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I mean, I go by that filter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:And God, family, work and then ministry, you know, which family is ministry?
Speaker B:I'm not involved.
Speaker B:I used to be a youth leader.
Speaker B:I loved it.
Speaker B:I mean, we've done lots of ministry over the years and.
Speaker B:And I loved being a youth leader so much.
Speaker B:But, like, I'm just.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:I can't do that.
Speaker B:And, you know, anyways, I've had to say no to a lot of things, and I don't feel guilty about it.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker B:So, Grace, like, it's all good.
Speaker B:You only do so much.
Speaker B:And my family is my flock.
Speaker B:Like, that is.
Speaker A:That's your problem.
Speaker B:That is my first and foremost.
Speaker B:That is who I'm pouring into and whatever else I got left.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Everybody else can have it.
Speaker A:Well, so here's what's interesting.
Speaker A:Hear you talk through this for me.
Speaker A:Is work is like the last thing on your list.
Speaker B:It happens somehow.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But that's so cool.
Speaker B:But it's the Lord.
Speaker B:And how, like, it blows my mind.
Speaker A:And how encouraging for those moms in that season where they've been called to work full time or it's a necessity for them to work full time.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:That's like the last thing on your list.
Speaker A:But that's what fuels everything else.
Speaker B:Yeah, it is.
Speaker B:I mean, and God has.
Speaker B:He just brings me the clients.
Speaker B:Real estate's nuts, and it can be incredibly stressful.
Speaker B:And there are times when I'm just like.
Speaker B:It's just like, this is so crazy.
Speaker B:But it's just.
Speaker B:It's seasons.
Speaker B:But, like, he brings me the most incredible.
Speaker B:I mean, like, you got.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:All 95% of my clients are all believers.
Speaker B:I have never once picked up the phone and asked for business.
Speaker B:It blows my mind.
Speaker B:And I am one of the top realtors.
Speaker B:But it's like, people just call, hey, Sarah, will you list my two and a half million dollar house?
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Hey, Sarah, will you write an offer on this?
Speaker B:You know, it's just like, what.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And I mean, I'm just playing with Josie, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But it's just him.
Speaker B:And that's how.
Speaker B:Yes, I work hard.
Speaker B:Yes, I am capable, and I am very good at what I do.
Speaker B:But it's all because of him.
Speaker B:And I mean, he.
Speaker B:He wants us to have these resources because he's got something bigger for us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And it's not for us.
Speaker B:It's for.
Speaker B:You know, I think he just knows that we're.
Speaker B:We are stewards.
Speaker B:Like, we totally live our life that way.
Speaker B:Like, we are just stewards.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we want to be good stewards.
Speaker B:And so I feel like he's shown favor on our business for that reason, and so we just want to honor him in that.
Speaker B:But it is.
Speaker B:It blows my mind.
Speaker B:I'm just like, wow.
Speaker B:I mean, I got some stories that people at the office are just like, I must start going to church.
Speaker C:You should.
Speaker A:That is so cool that God's just so faithful in that when you.
Speaker A:When you do have the intentionality and you do have the order to those things and you prioritize the right thing, that even the thing that you would think would be, like, the top of the list is, like, it's at the very end.
Speaker A:It's the very end of the priority list.
Speaker B:Somewhere in there, I mean, it moves.
Speaker B:It's a ladder.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But I like that, though.
Speaker A:I like how you were saying, in this season, I'm this.
Speaker A:In this season, I could do this, but in the season, I can be this way and just giving yourself grace as those seasons kind of shift.
Speaker A:And there is this one song, and I don't even know if we can say it on a podcast.
Speaker A:I don't even remember the name of it, but it's this song.
Speaker A:I think it's called Worn by.
Speaker A:Is it like, 10th Avenue North?
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:But, like, anyways, one of the lyrics in the song is like, I'll.
Speaker A:It's like, basically, like, I'll wake up and I'm tired.
Speaker A:Like, and I feel like I'm in that season of just.
Speaker A:There's so much busy.
Speaker A:There's something going on every day, every evening, every weekend, and it's really hard.
Speaker A:Even though I do stay home, it's still hard to prioritize the things that need to be prioritized because things are just so.
Speaker A:Oh, they're so busy.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I'm like.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm at that point where I'm like, I need to, like, have rest.
Speaker A:But at the same time, maybe this just isn't the season where I get.
Speaker A:I get rest.
Speaker A:But I love what you said.
Speaker A:Like, I want to enter the gates of heaven completely gassed because you have poured it all out.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:I mean, that is so.
Speaker A:That is so encouraging.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:I mean, to me, as.
Speaker A:As a mom, that's.
Speaker A:That stays home.
Speaker A:That's encouraging to me, that that's how you live your life.
Speaker A:That is.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:But that's very challenging.
Speaker B:People will be like.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm like, you know, slow down.
Speaker B:You do too much.
Speaker B:I mean, I can handle a lot.
Speaker B:Somebody.
Speaker B:Other people, maybe they can't.
Speaker B:I can't I do I have a hot.
Speaker B:That's just how I'm water.
Speaker B:Like I can't imagine sitting.
Speaker B:And like I don't even sit in my living room.
Speaker B:But maybe on Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker B:Yeah, I kind of been in there.
Speaker B:Like, I just don't.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm just whatever.
Speaker B:But that is just how I'm wired.
Speaker A:And God wired you purposefully for that.
Speaker B:You know, And I, I just can't do that.
Speaker B:But I.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, so I have my systems and that's just, that's, that's how it works for us.
Speaker B:But like, no judgment.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Don't do what I do.
Speaker B:Like if that's going to stress you out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But you just have to.
Speaker B:Like, I talked to my daughter in law about balance.
Speaker B:You know, they're.
Speaker B:They're newly married.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And just, you know, keeping up with the house and all of those things, you know, and it's like what makes, what gives you peace.
Speaker B:And I've always said, like, God is a God of order.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So if your house feels chaotic.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:Then you need to fix that.
Speaker B:Like, what is it that's gonna.
Speaker B:Cause you know what's going to cultivate peace in your house?
Speaker B:Is it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:My house is not always like, look spotless at all my floors, they have to be clean.
Speaker B:Like, that's what makes me feel, like, peaceful.
Speaker B:And my house is tidy, but there'll be just stuff all over the counters.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:That doesn't bother me because it's the drop zone, you know, like, it's just the drop zone.
Speaker B:It can't, it can be clean once a week.
Speaker B:But like my floors.
Speaker B:So for me, like, my floors, that's my thing.
Speaker B:Like, I need the, I need the Roomba.
Speaker B:I need all the things that need to be clean.
Speaker B:And so it's like, what.
Speaker B:That might not be her thing.
Speaker B:She might need the countertops clean.
Speaker B:So like, what is it that gives you peace and, you know, kind of makes it not feel so chaotic in your house?
Speaker B:And I'm all about some decluttering.
Speaker B:I mean, for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That I do it on the reg and like we're always, we just.
Speaker B:God is a God of order.
Speaker C:I always get when you do those Facebook draws, I'm like, what, what am I fast?
Speaker B:My daughter is growing.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:She's like 2 inches since February.
Speaker B:2 inches.
Speaker A:Are you serious?
Speaker A:Is she really?
Speaker B:I mean, I just bought shoes for Christmas and I just had to buy new shoes.
Speaker B:This is, this is why, this is why the Facebook purge.
Speaker B:Because I'm like hemorrhaging financially.
Speaker B:Clothing this because I buy sweet honey.
Speaker B:And I should stop.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm always sad because my daughter is like too young to like.
Speaker C:It's too much really Gas.
Speaker C:I know there's too much of a gap.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But if you're doing your stuff, I'm like, I'm on that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I know my daughter loves like, what are you drinking?
Speaker B:Like, I saw you do this purge, then you're doing this.
Speaker B:You're doing this.
Speaker B:I was like, I don't.
Speaker B:I mean, I can't sit down.
Speaker B:Like, I just don't.
Speaker B:I don't do that.
Speaker A:So you must be a super cool mother in law.
Speaker B:She hit the jackpot.
Speaker A:She 100% kid.
Speaker A:No, no, she did.
Speaker B:Those are hard.
Speaker A:Is she gonna listen to this?
Speaker A:She.
Speaker C:She did here.
Speaker A:She did hit the jackpot.
Speaker A:100%.
Speaker B:So funny.
Speaker A:Well, so did.
Speaker A:So did your husband and your.
Speaker B:So did I.
Speaker A:And that's so, that's.
Speaker A:That's really cool and encouraging that God, I mean, he wired you that way because of what your calling was.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And he was that saying that he might not always call the equipped.
Speaker A:He equips the called or he.
Speaker B:Something like that.
Speaker A:That sounds about.
Speaker A:Did I say it right?
Speaker C:Yeah, you did.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:So my next question for you, and I think you've already answered it a little bit, but do you feel like the church?
Speaker A:And when I say the church, I don't mean like our church specifically, but just like the body of Christ, the body of believers, do you feel like you're supported by the church as a working mom?
Speaker A:And if you don't feel that way, what are some things that we can do different?
Speaker A:What are some ways that we encourage the friends of ours that are working full time to help them feel like they're supported?
Speaker B:So, yeah, I mean, I do feel like I'm supported.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:You know, so.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Maybe not the specific church per se, but we've always had such an awesome community around us.
Speaker B:And again, that goes back to like intentionality.
Speaker B:And you build that.
Speaker B:I mean, we pray.
Speaker B:I prayed specifically when we got married.
Speaker B:I wanted to.
Speaker B:I wanted to be around older women that I could glean from that have been married for a long.
Speaker B:Just like this.
Speaker B:Just like what you guys are doing and God, boom, open the door.
Speaker B:As that first house I sold that.
Speaker B:That couple, we met them and I mean, it was just, just, you know, God providing this incredible small group with all these different marriages, but this one particular couple.
Speaker B:And I mean, I would regularly go have coffee with her now she was retired, but at once she was like a military.
Speaker B:Military mom.
Speaker B:And anyways, so just being intentional, and I always have.
Speaker B:Praying specifically about where I was in that season, what I needed.
Speaker B:And I've always prayed and surrounded myself with, I think, just, well, God's brought the right people, so, like, a ton of support in that, you know, because I've always worked, but I'm not sitting around waiting on somebody to come hold my hand and, you know, make me feel good.
Speaker B:So it's being intentional and get out there seeking relationships, serving, you know, getting involved, getting plugged in.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, once upon a time, we served a ton.
Speaker B:You know, I'm not serving a lot these days, and I just can't.
Speaker B:And so anyways, just.
Speaker B:Yeah, always kind of putting us in those places.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, I've.
Speaker B:Everybody's always known I've been a working mom, and I've never felt ridiculed or.
Speaker B:And I have felt very supported.
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:I don't really know what could be done better.
Speaker B:I think this.
Speaker B:You know, I just think offering things like this.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:I mean, I've had our church call me multiple times.
Speaker B:There's a girl here looking for a mentor.
Speaker B:We thought of you.
Speaker B:Would you like to meet with her?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:So I've done that several, and I think that's really cool.
Speaker B:So, like, that's.
Speaker B:That's what they do.
Speaker B:I mean, they've connected me with younger girls that wanted to work, you know, they wanted to go into some sort of career.
Speaker B:They wanted to be a wife and a mom.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:And so I think it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's pretty cool that, like, I've been thought of, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Trying to do it.
Speaker B:Trying to do it.
Speaker B:Well, I think you are.
Speaker D:Something you said that I thought was interesting is just the importance of being intentional.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker D:Because I think so much of, like, so many young mothers or even older mothers can blame the church for not supporting them, when really, it's like, we have to take those steps as an individual to make that happen.
Speaker A:And serving.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Jumping into serve or reaching out to someone that you saw that's a little older than you, that you were like, hey, I loved how they handled their kid in the parking lot after they spit at them.
Speaker D:You know, like, you.
Speaker D:Like, there's something so special about, like, when you take that step, to be intentional about finding the resources.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker D:When the resources aren't always just given to you on a silver router.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:So many people want.
Speaker B:So many people.
Speaker B:Well, yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe older, but I'm just looking at younger people that around.
Speaker B:It's like, you have to be intentional, but you're not going to go in and hold your hand and, you know, show you the way.
Speaker B:So, like, we can't be like that.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But anyways, we've always just served, made connections that way.
Speaker B:And, you know, and that's how the Lord's blessed my business.
Speaker B:It's like, you know, and some people have maybe been like, oh, well, you go to that church, you know, think that I.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:I've never once talked about real estate or ever tried to, like, push my agenda ever.
Speaker B:But people.
Speaker B:People know that I'm in real estate, and they always come and talk to me about it, and that is not at all why I go to church at all.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:Are you kidding me?
Speaker B:But God has used it like, that's my community.
Speaker B:That's my sphere of influence, you know?
Speaker B:And so because we're involved, we have a lot of connections and a lot of relationships.
Speaker B:And that's where business comes from.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is if they know you, trust you, love you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:No matter what you do, you sell cars, boats, cut hair, whatever it is.
Speaker B:Like, they're probably going to call you because they know you, trust you and love you.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker C:Okay, well, you guys keep saying this word intentional.
Speaker C:I have a little push back on this a little bit.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:So in.
Speaker C:I do a word of the year every year, and I forget which year it was.
Speaker C:Probably closer to 24, 25.
Speaker C:My word of the year was intentional.
Speaker C:I was like, I'm going to be intentional with everything.
Speaker C:And Drew and I had a life coach, and he was like, ren, everything, whether you're being focused towards it or not is actually intentional.
Speaker C:So you not going to the gym.
Speaker C:Let's use the gym example earlier.
Speaker C:It's like, you're intentionally not going to the gym if you don't get up and go to the gym.
Speaker C:And so he challenged me not to, like, use that word because.
Speaker C:But kind of bring awareness to.
Speaker C:And then give myself agency, because awareness comes before agency and stepping into those places and prioritizing, and I was like, wow, that really spoke to my brain, because I.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Sarah, you and I are wired so much alike.
Speaker C:And being in.
Speaker C:You can only be intentional with so many things.
Speaker C:When you're asked to carry it all, you're like, you can look at it on the other side of it and be like, I'm failing every direction.
Speaker C:Even if you're actually succeeding, like, with.
Speaker C:Because there's.
Speaker C:With business, there's always More numbers to obtain.
Speaker C:There's always more team to grow.
Speaker C:There's always.
Speaker C:And so you.
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker C:I really kind of now I like think of the word intentional.
Speaker C:I'm like every decision I make is an intentional decision, whether I'm aware of it or not, and bringing forth the prioritizing of where I'm spending my time and resources.
Speaker C:Do you all see what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker D:It's like similar to like when you say like or like not making a choice is the same as making a choice.
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker C:But I was like, joe, why'd you do that?
Speaker C:I had to change my word of the year that year.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Well, not.
Speaker A:No, I think you can still be intentional, but it's got to be.
Speaker A:You've got to have the priorities in line first.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Would you agree with that?
Speaker A:You have to have priorities before.
Speaker B:And boundaries and all those things.
Speaker C:I was gonna say, I think out of all this conversation and which speaking to me, you know, I'm in a season of running a company, building a team and being a full time mom.
Speaker C:We took our kids out of their, you know, things, so they're at home all the time.
Speaker C:I'm navigating a lot of child care and, and whatnot.
Speaker C:And I was like, yeah.
Speaker C:And podcasting.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:And the same way I feel like the Lord has just continuously blessed my so much provision through my business.
Speaker C:I just keep opening my hands and whereas in Psalm, it's like you open your mouth and he fills it like to the birds.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Something like that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Someone that needs someone, check on that.
Speaker C:And it is true.
Speaker C:But I think the boundary aspect that you're bringing up in especially I've got a two year old and a four year old.
Speaker C:The boundaries of this, I'm like, one second, it was not that long ago I had my hands like deep in sourdough.
Speaker C:And then I was like looking at my clock.
Speaker C:The kids were napping.
Speaker C:I look at my clock, I'm trying to get this ready for dinner.
Speaker C:And then I'm like, oh, I have to jump on this call that I'm about to lead this team through.
Speaker C:And I sat there and I still had crunchy, you know, sourdough.
Speaker C:And I'm like, they couldn't tell.
Speaker C:But my brain, the mental shift that.
Speaker C:That took like soured at a work.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Sourdough to work.
Speaker C:And the, the com.
Speaker C:I don't know, do you compartmentalize your brain or like, how is there a shift that you have?
Speaker C:Does it get better with time?
Speaker C:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:It does.
Speaker B:Maybe it's.
Speaker B:It's hard.
Speaker B:Like when I.
Speaker B:I have to.
Speaker B:I mean, I have to.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I have scheduled like, okay, for this 10 minutes.
Speaker B:I'm going to do this for like, I literally have a minute.
Speaker B:A minute calendar.
Speaker B:So I don't do that.
Speaker B:I want caper for like the day, a task list.
Speaker B:But I just know that if I have to take a call like that, I mean, I have to just really.
Speaker B:I do have to mentally prepare.
Speaker B:I have to get into my office and I kind of have a system, do these things.
Speaker B:And it's hard.
Speaker C:I mean, it becomes all you around for a day just so I can like watch you operate.
Speaker C:Because this sounds amazing.
Speaker A:I want you too.
Speaker A:I want a better schedule.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Do you use Google or Apple Calendar?
Speaker C:What do we do?
Speaker B:I do Google.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Google.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Shares across all the platforms.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like go Calendar.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I time block it.
Speaker B:I had.
Speaker B:Did that years ago and I really.
Speaker B:And, and you know, all my clients, because the Lord brings it.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not out.
Speaker B:I'm not striving.
Speaker B:I'm not, I'm not trying to grow.
Speaker B:I'm not trying to do any of that.
Speaker B:I'm just, my hands are open.
Speaker B:Like, Lord, whatever, whoever you want me to serve, whoever it is, I'll take good care of them.
Speaker B:And I'm not seeking out anything.
Speaker B:I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker B:Like, I'm not trying to build a team.
Speaker B:I don't want to do that.
Speaker B:I have no desire to do that.
Speaker B:Now he may call me to do that.
Speaker B:I don't want that at all.
Speaker B:I like where I'm at.
Speaker B:I'm good.
Speaker B:But I started time blocking and it really helps because it's like, okay, I want to work out at this time.
Speaker B:This is going to be my date.
Speaker B:This is family time.
Speaker B:And this is the time I will take appointments.
Speaker B:And if it does not fit in there, then I can't do it.
Speaker B:Like, I have to say no.
Speaker B:And so, I mean, I have said it takes a lot of practice and discipline to say no.
Speaker B:Especially when you're like us to like, ministry and all the good things.
Speaker B:Oh, that sounds good.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All these fun things and, you know, you just have to say no even to good things.
Speaker B:But I, I have things that are important to me and it's important to me to spend time with my family.
Speaker B:It's important to me to have date nights and it's important to me to spend time with my girlfriends, you know, and so like, I Literally schedule it.
Speaker B:Like, I'm going to.
Speaker B:I would much rather go have lunch with a friend and not talk about real estate, because it'll come.
Speaker B:The business will come, and.
Speaker B:But just go talk and hang out and just cultivate and nurture that relationship.
Speaker B:But it is on my calendar.
Speaker B:These are the times that I can do that.
Speaker B:So if a friend calls and now they want to go for a walk, it's Wednesdays.
Speaker B:Come walk with Ruby.
Speaker B:And so that's been like, my Wednesday routine is a girlfriend will come over, and we walk with my grandbaby.
Speaker B:And it's like, that's the time that I have it.
Speaker B:When you know that when you've got this calendar in your brain, it eliminates so much stress.
Speaker B:Is when somebody calls you, like, oh, well, let me see where I can squeeze.
Speaker B:You know, like, this is the time.
Speaker B:If it doesn't know, you know, I can't do it.
Speaker B:And so there's really a lot of freedom and also a lot of trust.
Speaker C:Like you were.
Speaker C:That is an act of trust of, like, the Lord will bring provision.
Speaker C:And my life was set up.
Speaker B:And the people.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, I have turned down so many, like, calls or, like, I'm just not gonna mess with that because it's my daughter's birthday, right.
Speaker B:And I'm doing this right now.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But because of the.
Speaker B:The people that I work with, they understand and they respect that.
Speaker B:Like, send your girl, holler at me later.
Speaker B:And I'm like, when I get her to bed, like, six to nine, sure, I'm tech check in on stuff, but, like, I'm just gonna have to call you when I get her to bed.
Speaker B:And I will, like, I'll be up working late, you know, and anyways, it is.
Speaker B:It's a challenge, but it's possible.
Speaker B:But you have to be really disciplined and intentional, you know, to do it.
Speaker B:And then just knowing that, like, with Josie, it's not.
Speaker B:Sometimes I don't have the quantity of time that I wish I had, you know, just play with her or whatever.
Speaker B:But it's the quality, you know?
Speaker B:And like, I.
Speaker B:Some people are like, oh, I don't.
Speaker B:Like, well, that is kind of what I go.
Speaker B:I mean, because I don't have days and days.
Speaker B:But she's also in school.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, when I pick her up, I'm not typically working a ton in the afternoon.
Speaker B:Like, I'm just in a place in my career where I'm not having to do that as much.
Speaker B:But it's just being intentional about getting in the floor, spending that Time with her, having those conversations and just really soaking up every minute that I have and not taking it.
Speaker C:And the boundaries allow you to do that.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm kind of noticing in my, like, as you're talking, I'm like, oh, that's so worried for me because there'll be emails or, like, a discussion or something that I'm trying to accomplish, but I'm like, I'm with my kids right now, and then so my brain is in that blurry place.
Speaker C:And they can tell.
Speaker C:The kids can tell that my brain is not fully, like, focused on them.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And they do it.
Speaker C:That's not good.
Speaker C:All right, I've been called out.
Speaker C:I've got her.
Speaker C:Get onto this.
Speaker A:But, like, what you said, though, it takes practice and it takes discipline.
Speaker A:So it's not going to be something that happens overnight when you just can't feel guilty.
Speaker B:Like, not if you race, if you're gripping.
Speaker B:I mean, I have friends that are so stressed out in real estate, I can only relate, really, to them.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's intense.
Speaker B:I mean, you're dealing with people's biggest investment.
Speaker B:Like, it's very, very stressful, and it is a big deal.
Speaker B:It's not something like, you know, like, I don't take.
Speaker C:There's a lot that goes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I mean, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker B:But anyways, I don't hold on to it so tightly.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just.
Speaker B:And then there's days that are not so great, you know, that.
Speaker B:That are very, very difficult.
Speaker B:And I'm super, super stressed out just trying to, like, I cannot do all of this.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's just how it is.
Speaker B:It's just ebbs and flows and.
Speaker B:Yeah, you just.
Speaker B:You have to have a lot of grace for yourself.
Speaker D:How do you navigate when your schedule does go off course?
Speaker D:Let's say something happens or there's this emergency or whatever it is, and it changes, like, your whole trajectory for the week.
Speaker D:How do you handle that?
Speaker B:And, like, it does a lot.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, like, we have a schedule, and that brings a lot of peace and sanity.
Speaker B:But then it gets crazy, you know?
Speaker B:And I mean.
Speaker B:But Jake is so awesome.
Speaker B:I mean, having a super supportive husband.
Speaker B:I mean, I can just, like, unload on him, and I do bless his heart, just like, oh, oh, my word.
Speaker B:And he just listens.
Speaker B:He just listens and he doesn't.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's just such.
Speaker B:He's such a voice of reason.
Speaker B:But he's super helpful.
Speaker B:Like, he just helps me Whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I need to do.
Speaker B:And then sometimes you just stand at the kitchen sink and cry.
Speaker B:So that's always good on the table still.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Lots of tears.
Speaker C:Honey was.
Speaker C:Why is there, like, tears?
Speaker C:Oh, it's water from the dishes.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, I can't do this.
Speaker B:But then I.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Jedi mind trick myself.
Speaker B:And then keep going.
Speaker B:Just sometimes it's just like that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, and so there are days that are intense.
Speaker B:I mean, this month has been crazy, and.
Speaker B:And we, like, vacation.
Speaker B:I have to go out of town every three months.
Speaker B:Like, I have to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I have to get.
Speaker B:My job is so intense that I have to get away, and I just do.
Speaker B:So I'm going to Montana Saturday.
Speaker B:Nice.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:I just have to list four houses before I do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's all.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I don't know how I'm gonna do it with all the end of school.
Speaker B:I got the calendar on, like, the Maycember.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Field trip Wednesday, Awards Day tomorrow.
Speaker B:So I got two days, four houses.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For two weeks anyways.
Speaker B:You know, we just do it.
Speaker B:Support.
Speaker B:Support.
Speaker B:Like I have.
Speaker B:If you don't have a supportive husband, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker B:Like, it's hard anyways.
Speaker B:But, like, I have an incredible husband.
Speaker B:Ta is my partner.
Speaker C:Read your brain.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And, I mean, he just is.
Speaker B:He just picks up all the pieces.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:What time do you usually wake up at?
Speaker B:6.
Speaker B:30.
Speaker B:I like to get it.
Speaker C:30, girl.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I would.
Speaker B:I really want to be in the 5:00am Club today.
Speaker B:I was in the 4:00am Club.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker A:Club is a little.
Speaker B:I don't like so much.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I would love.
Speaker B:I'm an early bird.
Speaker B:I hate staying up late.
Speaker B:Ideally, I would go to bed at, like, 10, but it's typically more like 11.
Speaker B:But once I get Josie to bed, so I don't go downstairs.
Speaker B:I have my whole routine, y' all.
Speaker B:I got the red light.
Speaker C:Tell us.
Speaker C:Tell us.
Speaker B:Yes, I got the red.
Speaker B:I sit with the red light.
Speaker B:I do all my thing.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker B:It's actually funny.
Speaker B:I mean, I have, like, a.
Speaker B:My scalp massager.
Speaker B:I do all the things, different things, but, like, that is my me time.
Speaker B:I listen to my Focus on the Family podcast.
Speaker B:I typically do that.
Speaker B:I mean, I do, and I'm always sending it to my kids.
Speaker B:You should listen.
Speaker B:They're, like, all podcasts.
Speaker B:They stop this podcast, but that's our routine.
Speaker B:And then I go.
Speaker B:I get in bed, you know, so I don't usually go downstairs or watch tv.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, sometimes we'll watch a show or something.
Speaker B:But Jake does his thing down there and I do all my stuff.
Speaker B:And that's kind of my sire.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But by the time I get her to bed, it's like 9:30.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm done.
Speaker B:And so I don't read at night because I'll just fall asleep.
Speaker B:I mean, I lay down and I'm out.
Speaker B:And so there's no.
Speaker B:There's no reading or anything.
Speaker B:I wish I could do that, but.
Speaker B:6:30, but you know, I'd like to get up earlier.
Speaker B:I would really trying to train myself to do that.
Speaker B:And I'm just not.
Speaker B:I'm not getting up earlier.
Speaker B:But to have that time in the morning, you know, my quiet time, like, it's best for me.
Speaker B:I can't find the time in the day, you know, it's just not.
Speaker B:But again, you know, I do have a lot of grace for myself and like, I don't feel God.
Speaker B:And I, we.
Speaker B:I talk to him all the time, you know, and so.
Speaker B:And then I have this awesome, like scripture memorization.
Speaker B:It's called Dwell.
Speaker B:Well.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Is it?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay, well, differently.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's just like a little thing I implemented last year.
Speaker B:And I have a mama and I go through all.
Speaker C:And the keychains.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:It's awesome.
Speaker A:It's just an actual.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:I know it's a subscription, but they send you a postcard and a devo and then tattoos and a little keychain.
Speaker B:It's to memorize the scripture.
Speaker C:It's the tattoos.
Speaker C:And you're only the first letter of the, of the words.
Speaker B:All of it is.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And so anyways, it's just a little thing and I have it on my desk.
Speaker B:And so I've like memorized probably eight or nine of these verses.
Speaker B:And so, you know, I am in the Word.
Speaker B:I might not be sitting there studying my Bible for an hour and a half.
Speaker C:Head in your heart.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:I was able to do that a few years ago.
Speaker B:And then it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's just a season.
Speaker A:Will you send me the information?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's really cool.
Speaker B:Josie and I put the tattoos on and she.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker C:Good gift.
Speaker B:But it's like you've just got to.
Speaker B:You've got to fight for that time.
Speaker A:Intentionality.
Speaker B:You have to fight for that time.
Speaker B:Don't feel guilty.
Speaker B:Quit beating yourself up.
Speaker B:Like, you're good, you're fine.
Speaker B:And so, you know, I worship.
Speaker B:I have my worship time in the Car.
Speaker B:I listen to, you know, my one year Bible.
Speaker C:What's Harley Cobble?
Speaker C:Is that the one?
Speaker C:One.
Speaker C:The Bible recap or do you know?
Speaker B:It's one.
Speaker B:It's one year Bible.
Speaker B:I can't remember what the guy's name.
Speaker B:Jake.
Speaker B:Cannot stand it.
Speaker B:But I have listened to it for years and it's just kind of my morning routine.
Speaker B:And I just listen to that and if I'm not able to read it and so, you know, I mean, I am.
Speaker B:I'm intentional about doing that stuff every day, you know, and I just don't feel guilty, you know.
Speaker B:And then my small group, we usually read a book.
Speaker B:We just finished a really good book, though.
Speaker B:Gospel Shaped Woman.
Speaker B:So we just finished that.
Speaker B:And then we'll do scripture over the summer, and then we'll.
Speaker B:We're going to do the Power of the Praying Wife in the fall.
Speaker B:And so, you know, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So anyways.
Speaker C:Oh, cool.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's really helpful and insightful.
Speaker C:I'm like, even thinking about, okay, all the elements of the day.
Speaker C:So with laundry and cooking, do you have any, like, tips for working moms?
Speaker B:Every day.
Speaker B:I do it every day.
Speaker A:One loaded, one load a day.
Speaker B:I mean, and there's just three of us, you know, but like, we.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:I have to stay on top of it.
Speaker B:And then there's just.
Speaker B:Sometimes I don't.
Speaker B:Sometimes I let things pile up, but that's just not really in my nature.
Speaker B:Like, I pretty much stay on top of the housework because I've the piece.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker B:Yeah, for me, I just.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I can be like you.
Speaker B:I find this hard to believe.
Speaker B:Over the top.
Speaker B:It's strange.
Speaker B:I know that's shocking.
Speaker B:But I could be extreme.
Speaker B:Extreme when it comes to, like, housework and stuff.
Speaker B:And I have also had to really let cool it.
Speaker B:Like, everything doesn't have to be perfect.
Speaker B:I've had to find that balance.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But for me, I mean, I can't.
Speaker B:I cannot relax or rest with, like a mess.
Speaker B:So, you know, we'll leave some dishes in the sink at night, you know, whatever.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker C:That is Stacy's biggest pet piece.
Speaker C:That's like.
Speaker B:But it's like what's important to you, right?
Speaker B:So if that's something that really bugs you, that doesn't.
Speaker B:I mean, it bugs me, but sometimes it just like, I can't.
Speaker B:Like, I gotta go upstairs.
Speaker C:That too.
Speaker C:I'm like, they'll be there.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I mean, I do.
Speaker B:I just try to tackle a little bit.
Speaker B:And then with like the decluttering.
Speaker B:I mean, every.
Speaker B:Honestly, probably like every week I clean something out.
Speaker B:So it's not like I'm gonna clean out my house.
Speaker C:And it's on the schedule.
Speaker C:Do you have like, this is.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm like, this is just a discipline.
Speaker B:It's like, you're not.
Speaker B:I'm never gonna have time to, like, clean my closet out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But at night, you know, after I've gotten ready and I'm getting ready for bed, I might clean out a drawer and get rid of like, I will regularly make Josie get rid things.
Speaker B:Don't get rid of five things.
Speaker B:And then in my makeup drawer.
Speaker B:Get rid of.
Speaker B:I'm going to get rid of three things.
Speaker B:Or in my.
Speaker B:Whatever shirt.
Speaker B:I'm going to go get rid of a shirt.
Speaker B:Because if you do that, it's so quickly declutters.
Speaker B:And it's just a really, really easy way.
Speaker B:I used to.
Speaker B:My boys do.
Speaker B:I don't care if it's a paperclip, a mismatch thought.
Speaker B:Get rid of it and put it on the table.
Speaker B:And they would have to bring five things and put it on the table.
Speaker B:Just kept things at bay.
Speaker C:Now, do they still.
Speaker C:Are they.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker B:My oldest still is Very much so a minimalist.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:And he kind of.
Speaker B:Then the other one's polar opposite in front of like sugar packets and mints from Calvary all in his drawer.
Speaker B:Pack rat.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then Jake and I are very much so opposite.
Speaker B:Like, I can't stand Flutter.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But, you know, so anyways, just trying to keep those things at bay and just stay.
Speaker B:Stay on top of it and don't let things.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Don't let things get out of hand.
Speaker B:And so, like, I'll just clean out a drunk junk drawer.
Speaker B:I'll just clean out.
Speaker B:Just constantly kind of purging, which when you have a bunch of kids and you have to.
Speaker B:Or you're just going to get overrun with stuff and that feels like a burden to me.
Speaker C:This has an emotional and spiritual component to it too.
Speaker C:There.
Speaker C:I listened to a podcast and it was the concept of cleaning out your junk drawer and the parallels made to sorting through your physical junk drawer that everything just like piles up and you don't take time to deal with it.
Speaker C:And the emotional component of things that you just like, kind of keep putting in the junk drawer.
Speaker C:And it's like you can't even find what you need because you're so overflowing with like the emotional spiritual junk.
Speaker C:And it really challenged of, like, just sit down and get rid of the One item like the push through.
Speaker C:And I like listening to you say those.
Speaker C:I'm like, how often do we not only let everything gather in our closet, but not.
Speaker C:And when we're talking about how busy staying at home, working full time, the combination, all of the different ways.
Speaker C:How are we actually decluttering?
Speaker C:And it's that it.
Speaker C:It doesn't look like three days on your calendar or it could, but it looks like getting rid of one shirt when it pops into your mouth.
Speaker C:It's an easy built it into.
Speaker C:And now it's just like discipline.
Speaker C:I love how you taught your kids.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because that is setting the foundation for that emotional and spiritual place of addressing things that are.
Speaker C:Have been left to gather without.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just not dealing with.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And that is not.
Speaker B:I mean some people can have peace and chaos.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:So like I need it to be.
Speaker C:You don't have a shirt that says chaos coordinator or hat.
Speaker C:Have you seen those?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's just.
Speaker B:Those are just things that are important to me and you know, anyways.
Speaker B:Been a lot of practice.
Speaker B:A lot of practice to me.
Speaker C:I'm like, listen, I'm like, wow.
Speaker C:We talk about arriving sometimes.
Speaker C:Like if you try this on, you know, I forget episode three probably is like one day I'm gonna arrive and I'm gonna.
Speaker A:One day I'm gonna have this figured out.
Speaker C:And this does give me some hope because I'm like this small little assured a day.
Speaker C:Go get a.
Speaker C:Find a paperclip.
Speaker C:Just throw that thing away.
Speaker C:Like what are we doing?
Speaker C:Why are we going on to this One day we will be like Sarah and I'll just come to us naturally.
Speaker A:I'm speaking about myself, not listen, no discipline.
Speaker B:And I love organization.
Speaker B:Like I would love to like, like do that as a business.
Speaker B:I have over time figured out the best like organizational things in my house.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker B:I don't know how to do that.
Speaker B:I don't have time for that.
Speaker B:But I can send you the things that I bought that make.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just if you have a place for everything.
Speaker B:I mean I have a place for everything.
Speaker A:I am like that at home too.
Speaker A:I always say a place for everything and everything and it's its place.
Speaker A:But actually came from a scary movie.
Speaker A:There's one movie, it's got Liam Neeson in it and like Catherine.
Speaker A:Catherine Zeta Jones.
Speaker A:It's like is it the Haunting?
Speaker A:And they go like real scary.
Speaker A:Owen Wilson's in it and they go to this like haunted mansion.
Speaker A:And it's like this.
Speaker A:This couple, like, couldn't have kids, but they like stored kids souls in the house.
Speaker A:I'm like, it's really old.
Speaker A:Oh, it's like a 90s, like when horror movies were good.
Speaker A:But anyways, that's like one of the sayings that one of the girls says in the.
Speaker A:The thing is a place for everything and everything in its place.
Speaker A:I actually have a, A, like a scrap a thing on my counter that we organize.
Speaker C:They have like, chopped off things that.
Speaker A:Says a place for everything.
Speaker A:I got it from Hobby Lobby, but I always think about that movie.
Speaker A:It's a good movie.
Speaker A:I have to figure out the name.
Speaker A:I think it's called the Haunting.
Speaker A:Anyways, I can't watch stuff like that.
Speaker C:I can't either.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, so just.
Speaker A:So just to wrap up here, so what would be kind of your final encouragement for those moms that have also been called to work full time?
Speaker B:Well, I would just say I think you have to know what your why is.
Speaker B:And so I.
Speaker B:My why was adoption.
Speaker B:My yes.
Speaker B:And so that's what motivated me in the beginning.
Speaker B:And then of course, that has grown.
Speaker B:But I had to, you know, I had to switch gears in my career.
Speaker B:And so the Lord called us to adopt.
Speaker B:We needed more resources.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And this is what he called it to do.
Speaker B:So that was my big why.
Speaker B:And it was highly, highly motivated.
Speaker B:And I have to remind myself, you know, why am I doing this?
Speaker B:Is it for me?
Speaker B:Is it for, you know.
Speaker B:No, it's for my family.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:And it's for this flock that he's called me to tend to.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Very cool.
Speaker B:It's a big, big calling.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker A:I knew that was going to be a great conversation, but I really appreciate that and just the relatability across the board for all moms.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was.
Speaker A:That was really great.
Speaker A:So we love you, Sarah.
Speaker B:Thank you so much, guys for having me.
Speaker A:Super fun being here.
Speaker A:And that's a wrap on this episode of the Wise, her podcast.
Speaker A:If you laughed, cried, or just nodded silently while folding a load of laundry, then our mission is accomplished.
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Speaker A:Until next time, moms.
Speaker A:Stay caffeinated, stay prayed up and stay wise.
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