Ep. 3 | Navigating Motherhood: Insights from the Dream Team
The latest episode of the Wiser podcast offers an engaging and heartfelt discussion among four mothers, each sharing their unique perspectives on the challenges and joys of parenting. The hosts—Megan, Ren, Stacy, and Nikki—delve into a myriad of topics, including the complexities of managing different stages of childhood, the importance of communication within families, and the shared wisdom that emerges from their collective experiences. Throughout the episode, the mothers reflect on their personal stories, providing listeners with relatable anecdotes that underscore the universal nature of motherhood.
Central to the conversation is the theme of resilience, as each mother recounts her journey through various parenting hurdles, from navigating pre-teen drama to managing the logistics of raising multiple children. The dialogue also emphasizes the significance of community and support, highlighting how mothers can uplift one another through shared experiences and advice. The episode culminates in a powerful reminder that while the path of motherhood is fraught with challenges, it is also rich with love, growth, and the invaluable connections forged along the way. This episode not only offers insights and encouragement to listeners but also fosters a sense of belonging within the broader community of mothers.
Transcript
If that happened to me, my, my.
Speaker A:I would just start honking the.
Speaker A:You know me.
Speaker A:The girls would honk.
Speaker B:The girls would honk.
Speaker B:Well, hello, and welcome back to the Wiser podcast, where we might not be qualified to give you advice, but we're commanded to.
Speaker B:So this is a very special episode, episode three.
Speaker B:But I have to say, we have the dream team among us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So episode one, you got to hear from Nikki and myself, and now you're going to get to hear from Ren and Stacy.
Speaker B:So between the four of us, and I think I talked about this already on episode one, but how many years of marriage do we have between the four of us?
Speaker B:We've calculated this.
Speaker B:How long have you been married?
Speaker B:Fifteen.
Speaker B:Nikki's got 23.
Speaker B:Three will be 20 years in May.
Speaker A:I'll be nine in June.
Speaker B:Okay, so that's a lot of years of marital advice.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And then ages of kids.
Speaker B:The youngest kid is Renz.
Speaker C:What's your youngest?
Speaker A:She's two and a half.
Speaker B:And then Nikki's oldest son is 21.
Speaker D:Correct.
Speaker B:So we've got you from ages two to 21 as far as motherhood experiences.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And this is a Something.
Speaker B:A concept that was started, actually.
Speaker B:Wren, this is all your fault.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Here we are.
Speaker B:If that makes anybody feel any better.
Speaker B:Everything started.
Speaker B:Stacy and I had gone to a women's event and had brunch afterwards.
Speaker B:And that was the first time I met you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:How did I meet you?
Speaker A:I just, like, walked up and said, hi.
Speaker B:I think Stacy.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think it was through her.
Speaker B:And we all three sat down, and you asked the best questions.
Speaker A:It was so great.
Speaker B:You asked the best questions.
Speaker B:And it just.
Speaker A:We were like, we're gonna have a podcast one day.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:That's what.
Speaker B:After that, after we talked, you were like, that could have been a podcast episode.
Speaker B:We just dropped so much wisdom.
Speaker A:It was amazing.
Speaker A:I remember thinking, like, I could ask them questions all day long.
Speaker A:And the conversation was fun.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And it's what?
Speaker A:Here we are five years later.
Speaker A:Roughly.
Speaker B:I can't believe it's been that long.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Megan finally was like, it's time.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker B:It's all about timing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:So I chose when Nikki was gonna have foot surgery, and I thought to myself, let's start a podcast.
Speaker B:This is gonna be the right time.
Speaker A:Nothing else going on.
Speaker B:So after that brunch, I remember on my way home, and I was like, oh, my gosh, that could be a podcast.
Speaker B:Because the Lord had been.
Speaker B:Had put a mentorship type program on my Heart Many, many years ago.
Speaker B:Probably a decade ago at least.
Speaker B:And to just mentor women.
Speaker B:And I just had no idea what that looked like.
Speaker B:And I thought, well, maybe it could be through an avenue of a podcast.
Speaker B:And just to give moms.
Speaker B:Like, you were just asking questions like, well, so what did you do when your kid was this age?
Speaker B:And I think at the time you were one.
Speaker B:Wait a second.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You weren't even pregnant.
Speaker B:Like, you didn't even have yours.
Speaker B:You only had a baby.
Speaker A:I only had River.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You only had your oldest son.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So you weren't even.
Speaker B:So you weren't even pregnant.
Speaker B:I don't even know if you were thinking about a second kid.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I can't remember back to that season, but I remember being like, how do you grocery shop?
Speaker A:Like, it was like the most simple, like, just having, like, I wanted to hear from other moms.
Speaker A:Like, how do you do just the daily things in addition to, like, what do you do about spanking?
Speaker B:Yes, exactly.
Speaker B:Meal planning.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:We talked about all of that stuff.
Speaker B:So just having someone in your life that can just give you a heads up.
Speaker B:So Nikki has been my go to for several years.
Speaker A:Nikki, the go to.
Speaker B:She's my go to.
Speaker B:She's been my goat.
Speaker B:So anytime I've had something come up with my daughter, it's always like, nikki, what did you do when they.
Speaker B:And she guides me through it.
Speaker B:Yeah, every time.
Speaker B:So that's what I hope this podcast can be for everyone.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So we'll start off with Ren.
Speaker B:Tell us a little bit about, you know, how you met your husband, how long you've been married, your kids, introduce yourself a little bit.
Speaker B:But can you first start off with how, while we call you Ren, feel like when I talk about you, people think I'm saying Ryan.
Speaker A:Yes, it's like Ryan without the a.
Speaker B:Go with that, please.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So growing up, I actually went by Katie or Kate.
Speaker A:A lot of my family still calls me Katie and Kate.
Speaker A:And then it was a ninth grade.
Speaker A:I went to an all girls school.
Speaker A:There was a lot of Katie and Kate's in my class.
Speaker A:And one of the girls was like, you should go by Rin off of the last part of my name.
Speaker A:Katherine Kthryn.
Speaker D:Oh.
Speaker A:And from that day forward, it.
Speaker A:I've been Wren ever since.
Speaker A:I never had a choice.
Speaker A:It was like, boom, I was renamed.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So Ren, short for Catherine.
Speaker A:Speaking of high school, my husband actually met me when I went by Kate in high school.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And it was about, you know, that year, freshman year of high school.
Speaker A:And we dated way too long before we got married.
Speaker A:We had to wait until we were old enough.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I, as people ask me, like, what's one regret?
Speaker A:I'm like, I should have married Drew, like, immediately.
Speaker A:You know, I knew.
Speaker A:So we dated, like, almost eight.
Speaker A:Eight years.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And then we've been married almost nine.
Speaker A:June will be nine.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we dated all through high school, all through college, and then we have two kids.
Speaker A: I did have a miscarriage in: Speaker A:And then we have a son.
Speaker A:Son who is just a constant reminder of God's faithfulness to us.
Speaker A:And then we have a daughter who is just grace upon grace and just so spunky and.
Speaker A:Yeah, she's great.
Speaker A:He is four.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's worried he'll be five in December.
Speaker B:So I have to think about that too.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, where are we again?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Good deal.
Speaker B:So you knew he was the one, Drew.
Speaker A:Yes, I did.
Speaker A:He was so funny.
Speaker A:He was so funny.
Speaker A:Just like, has such a big servant heart and he's just a, like a go with the flow guy.
Speaker A:And, you know, I can get us into some weird, fun situations and I needed someone who was, like, willing to tag along, you know, so it was good.
Speaker D:Well, that's good.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then with Stacy.
Speaker B:So Stacy has a very special place in my heart.
Speaker B:I have known Stacy since she was 12 and I was 14.
Speaker A:What a weird stage to enter into too.
Speaker B:We go, hey, back.
Speaker B:And episode two, when we had Miss Kathy, our.
Speaker B:Our pearl of wisdom.
Speaker A:Pearl of wisdom.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker D:That's so great.
Speaker B:Stacy's aunt.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So Stacy has been with me through a couple boyfriends.
Speaker B:And then Stacy's like.
Speaker B:And then when I met my husband John.
Speaker B:And of course I knew her before Anthony and the.
Speaker B:Those five amazing kids.
Speaker B:And I predicted every single one of her pregnancies.
Speaker B:I'm actually really proud about that.
Speaker B:I knew every.
Speaker A:That's a gifting of yours.
Speaker C:The last one was the most shocking, though.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cuz I hadn't seen her and I was.
Speaker B:I was really just joking with Anthony.
Speaker B:I'd walked in, he was in the production booth at church, and he was just kind of acting a little funky, and I was like, oh, what?
Speaker B:Is Stacy pregnant again?
Speaker B:And he was like, no.
Speaker B:And then she called me like an hour later and she was like, how did you know?
Speaker B:We just.
Speaker B:And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker B:I just guessed.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker B:So why don't you tell us a little bit about Amen, as I call him, and those glorious five kids ears.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I'm Stacy, and I met my husband Anthony in the eighth grade.
Speaker A:Oh, you got me beat.
Speaker C:I know, right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And so we kind of instantly became friends.
Speaker C:I had three brothers and he was close with my brothers.
Speaker C:We were in youth group together.
Speaker C:He had actually professed his love to me in ninth grade.
Speaker C:And I thought he was the weirdest, dorkiest kid ever.
Speaker C:I said, absolutely not because he was, he was so weird.
Speaker C:But I loved him.
Speaker C:He was my friend.
Speaker C:And I was like, no, I don't like you like that.
Speaker C:We're just friends.
Speaker C:And so we remained friends all through high school until our senior year.
Speaker C:And he wooed me by asking me to help him with his senior project, which I later discovered he chose because he knew it was an interest of mine.
Speaker A:No way.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was scrapbooking.
Speaker C:He had a scrapbook of his high school experience.
Speaker C:And so I came and helped him make a scrapbook and we bonded over scrapbooking.
Speaker C:And uh, then he asked me to go to prom with him as his friend.
Speaker C:Turned out that we maybe became more than friends at that point.
Speaker C:And so then we got right there.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So we started dating and we dated a couple years and then, you know, everyone takes a break at some point.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So I cut things off because I was gonna move away, and I moved away an hour and a half.
Speaker C:We separated for like six, six months or so, and then came back together, dated a little longer, and his uncle gave him some really great advice, which was, anthony, it's time to poop or get off the pot.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:Because we dated for so long, which you said eight years, there's no way we could have done that.
Speaker C:Ours was about four years by the time we finally got engaged.
Speaker C:But so he proposed and I moved back.
Speaker C:So we've been in Chattanooga ever since then.
Speaker C:Been married 15 years.
Speaker C:March marked 15 years for us.
Speaker C:And we've had five amazing kids.
Speaker C:Our oldest, so we have one girl and then four boys that follow her.
Speaker C:And so she's 11.
Speaker C:And then we have a 10 year old, almost 9 year old, a 7 year old and a 5 year old.
Speaker C:And life is crazy.
Speaker C:It's fun and we love it.
Speaker C:I homeschool my kids, I stay home.
Speaker C:He's in full time ministry.
Speaker C:He's our operations director and staff elder in our church.
Speaker C:So we're have, we have a lot of life that we're living.
Speaker B:Yeah, Yeah, I like how you say that.
Speaker B:That's good.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Can we.
Speaker B:Can we talk a little bit about your wedding day?
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh, My wedding day.
Speaker C:Megan could tell you firsthand because she also was throwing up.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was.
Speaker B:I was pregnant with our.
Speaker B:My oldest daughter, our first daughter, and she about killed me.
Speaker B:I was so sick.
Speaker B:I was sick.
Speaker B:I threw up 20, 24 7.
Speaker B:I literally, @ the time, I had a job in advertising for a magazine.
Speaker B:I had to quit my job.
Speaker B:I physically could not work because I was so sick.
Speaker B:So by the time it came time for your wedding, I remember there was a Taco Bell that opened up near where we lived, and Taco Bell was the only thing I could eat and not get sick of all the foods in the world I could eat Taco Bell.
Speaker B:So I remember before we went to your wedding, I was like, john, you're going to have to.
Speaker B:We're going to have to stop and get some Taco Bell because I'm not going to be able to eat at her wedding.
Speaker B:So we stop at Taco Bell.
Speaker B:I get.
Speaker B:Get my food, eat on the way we go through your wedding reception.
Speaker B:I felt fine.
Speaker B:Stacy, however, had the flu on her wedding day, and she was sick, throwing up most of.
Speaker A:On your wedding day.
Speaker B:On her wedding day.
Speaker C:It started.
Speaker C:It was not the stomach flu.
Speaker C:It started with me barely being able to speak.
Speaker C:I had a sore throat.
Speaker C:I had a fever.
Speaker A:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker C:Over to the minute clinic.
Speaker C:I think, like, the morning of the wedding, which Kathy, my aunt, she was making breakfast for all of my bridesmaids and my friends, and.
Speaker C:And I'm just, like, feeling awful.
Speaker C:And one of them was like, you need to go get tested.
Speaker C:You could have something that you're going to spread to all the people.
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker C:So I go across the street, and they're just like, you have the flu?
Speaker C:And I'm just like, oh, gosh.
Speaker C:So they make me wear a mask.
Speaker C:You know, before masks were popular.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And I had to wear a mask to get ready and.
Speaker A:No, you did not.
Speaker C:It's so, like getting my hair and my makeup done and with a mask on.
Speaker C:Sick.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:But I wasn't throwing up at this point.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It was all just sorcery that was still coming.
Speaker C:So they.
Speaker C:They prescribed me a medication that apparently I have an allergy, of course.
Speaker C:And I didn't know it.
Speaker A:How in the world.
Speaker C:Taking it before.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:And so I start taking the medication immediately because they're like, sooner you take it, sooner you're not.
Speaker C:The sooner you're not gonna be.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And so right before the wedding started.
Speaker C:I was like, I am going to be sick.
Speaker C:Like, this is more than just my throat hurting.
Speaker B:This is not just jitters.
Speaker C:It is not just jitters.
Speaker C:And so I am full wedding dress.
Speaker A:No, you're not.
Speaker A:I cannot.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:Bridesmaids are literally, like, holding up my dress because it's not only, you know, coming out the top, but also the bottom.
Speaker C:And I was so sick.
Speaker C:I'm like, how am I gonna walk down the aisle?
Speaker C:What if I'm just, like, you know, trailing things behind?
Speaker C:I was terrified at our wedding.
Speaker C:We were ridiculous.
Speaker C:We had so many things planned for our wedding.
Speaker B:It was the longest ceremony ever.
Speaker B:They washed each other's feet.
Speaker B:Stacy wrote this song and sang it to Anthony.
Speaker A:You sang a song in the middle of all of this?
Speaker C:My grandfather told me afterwards that I did a terrible job because I couldn't sing, I couldn't talk, and it was just squeaky.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker C:Like, the heart was good.
Speaker C:The sound was nice, so.
Speaker D:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Talk about a memorable day.
Speaker C:It was crazy.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:So Megan was throwing up.
Speaker C:I was throwing up.
Speaker C:Didn't eat any food at my reception.
Speaker C:Just like.
Speaker C:You didn't.
Speaker C:It was just.
Speaker B:And I got home, and we had just moved into our house, and so I was getting sick, like, on the way home.
Speaker B:And I decided to stay outside and, like, walk around outside, thinking, well, I'd rather throw about here.
Speaker B:And then, like, the feeling left.
Speaker B:And I remember, like, walking up the stairs, and then it hit me, like, midway up the stairs, and John heard me start running to the.
Speaker B:And I didn't make it.
Speaker B:Went to the bathroom.
Speaker B:So he had to clean all that up because I was like, all right, well, I'm going to bed now.
Speaker A:Listen, marriage.
Speaker A:Husband's, like, straight out of the gate.
Speaker A:You're like, hello, Anthony.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:And then he lost his wallet.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:He's driving around Chattanooga until 3am we have a flight.
Speaker B:And she's got the flu.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So her wedding is just a very memorable event.
Speaker A:Y' all start in the trenches.
Speaker D:I was gonna say, you need to redo that.
Speaker B:You do for your 20 year.
Speaker D:You gotta redo it.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:Need to renew your vows.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And make sure.
Speaker A:My God.
Speaker B:And maybe my daughter, who was making me puke.
Speaker B:She could be like, your flower girl or something.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:She'd be 20 by the old.
Speaker B:Because she's, like, the age of your marriage pretty much, because she'll be 15 in October, so.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Fun times.
Speaker B:But look at you.
Speaker B:You got through it.
Speaker B:You had those five kids.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:You still went on your honeymoon?
Speaker C:We did.
Speaker C:We almost canceled.
Speaker C:Like, we're in the airport parking lot.
Speaker C:I'm still throwing up.
Speaker C:He's like, we can cancel it.
Speaker C:We're gonna lose all this money, but we can cancel it.
Speaker C:And I was like, I am getting on that plane.
Speaker C:And we went to Hawaii.
Speaker C:I was sick about three quarters of the trip, but we were in Hawaii.
Speaker C:It wasn't pretty good.
Speaker C:It's fine.
Speaker C:It's like, I can be sick at the beach.
Speaker B:I can be sick in Hawaii.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Well, good.
Speaker B:So there's some more.
Speaker B:Some more good stories for you.
Speaker B:I love Stacy's wedding story.
Speaker B:So for our first, I guess, discussion, because this is the first time that we're all four here recording and it's happening.
Speaker B:So for our first discussion.
Speaker B:So most of our episodes will be roundtable discussions.
Speaker B:We will have a topic that we are discussing through.
Speaker B:Hopefully as we get more listeners and more engagement.
Speaker B:I would love for you guys, the listeners, to write in, email us questions or if there is a certain mom that you can relate to, whether it be their season of life, the age of their kids.
Speaker B:If you've got a question for a mom or something that you'd like for us to talk about, we would like to be able to discuss those things.
Speaker B:And we have a lot of different women that we want to interview.
Speaker B:I would like to give a voice to as many different types as moms as possible.
Speaker B:So moms that work full time and manage a family, we've got perspective of moms that have kids in public school.
Speaker B:Homeschool.
Speaker B:Wren, what are you doing with your children as far as they're home?
Speaker A:With me currently homeschooling.
Speaker B:So I just want to talk about all the different types of challenges we face as moms.
Speaker B:So I thought a good topic for today that we could discuss just to kind of give you, our listeners, a little bit more relatability, just so you know, where we all are in our phase of motherhood, if we could just talk about the different challenges that we're currently facing with the ages that our kids are now and just kind of go from there.
Speaker B:So I will start off and then.
Speaker A:Yeah, Megan, what challenges are you having right now?
Speaker B:I'll tell you.
Speaker B:I'll tell you.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then we can, you know, just kind of go on from there.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So for me, again, my name is Megan, and my two daughters are 13 and 14.
Speaker B:And the current challenge I have, in which we have been so.
Speaker B:We've been so blessed with our daughters, I think the.
Speaker B:The perception of moms with daughters is, oh, my gosh, that is so much drama.
Speaker B:I mean, I hear that from so many people, and we have been so blessed.
Speaker B:My girls have great groups of friends.
Speaker B:We've really been blessed that we've not.
Speaker B:It hasn't.
Speaker B:Especially with them being in middle school.
Speaker B:It has not been the drama fest that other people seem to experience, and I have been so grateful for that.
Speaker B:But life isn't perfect.
Speaker B:Spoiler alert.
Speaker B:And so whenever my daughters do have challenges with friends, something recently that the Lord's kind of been showing me is I've had a lot of trauma in my past as it relates to women, as it relates to friendships with women.
Speaker B:And I think a lot of it goes back to how I was raised.
Speaker B:I was never, like, the word boundary wasn't really.
Speaker B:Didn't really exist back when I was in middle school.
Speaker B:There wasn't really talk of boundaries or how to handle conflict.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:From a Christian perspective, it was, well, you've got to be the bigger person.
Speaker B:You have to make things right.
Speaker B:And which all of those things are.
Speaker B:Yes, true.
Speaker B:But I think there was a.
Speaker B:A perception that, you know, if you had something toxic in your life, like a toxic relationship, even if you forgive that person, you come to an agreement, you move on.
Speaker B:Well, you still.
Speaker B:You enter right back into that relationship.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Head first.
Speaker B:There was no, like I said, boundary, or let's insert a boundary here to make sure that, like, this isn't happen again.
Speaker B:So I've had a lot of trauma.
Speaker B:And again, if I could go back and.
Speaker B:And rehandle.
Speaker B:Stacy knows all of my.
Speaker B:She knows the woman I'm talking about right now.
Speaker B:If I could go back and redo a lot of those things, I would do them so different.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And you know that we've talked about that.
Speaker B:Um, but like, that good old saying, you do the best that you can with the knowledge you have at the time.
Speaker B:So I think for me, when my daughters encounter conflict, I want to step in and I want to handle things the way I wish I could have.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:Like, it's like I.
Speaker B:And I'm just.
Speaker B:I'm just figuring this out.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:I'm just figuring this out.
Speaker B:I'm wanting to.
Speaker B:Like, when something happens to them, it's like I want to rewrite my story.
Speaker B:Like, if I could step in your shoes, this is how I would handle it.
Speaker B:But I've got all this.
Speaker B:I've got all these layers of trauma and life experience that they don't have.
Speaker B:And so I was talking to one of my daughters Putting her to bed the other night, and we were just kind of talking through.
Speaker B:Talking through things and, you know, how she should respond to certain things.
Speaker B:And, like, I had this realization, like, I'm putting my trauma, I'm putting my.
Speaker B:My life perception on her.
Speaker B:But the Lord spoke to me, like, you've got to direct her to me, and you've got to.
Speaker B:You've got to pray through things.
Speaker B:You can't just respond to things the way that you want to respond to things.
Speaker B:She has to learn how to handle conflict.
Speaker B:She has to learn how to respond in situations.
Speaker B:She's got to figure this out.
Speaker B:Like, you have to guide her, but you can't step in and respond the way that you would now with all of these layers of trauma on you.
Speaker B:So that's been.
Speaker B:The thing that we're kind of working through right now is me trying to take a step back and just offer whatever wisdom I can, because she's at that age where she's having to figure things out for herself.
Speaker B:And that is one of the most challenging things about being a mom is.
Speaker B:And I think it was Nikki that had told me this.
Speaker B:It's like, for so much of your kid's life, you are in control of everything.
Speaker B:You're in control of who their friends are.
Speaker B:So you get to control.
Speaker B:You control every single aspect of their life.
Speaker B:But as they get older, just.
Speaker B:It's so.
Speaker B:It's so hard to just cut that part off and let them be.
Speaker B:Because I'm like, in my head, I'm thinking, well, if I.
Speaker B:If I could, if she would handle this the way that I want her to, then this is going to be the outcome, or this is going to be the best outcome for her.
Speaker B:But she's.
Speaker B:She's going to have to do it and make her own mistakes.
Speaker B:Because, I mean, she's got to get to the point where I'm at, where I wish I could have handled that differently, or the next time she's in a similar situation, she'll know better how to handle it because she got through this.
Speaker B:So that's what.
Speaker B:That's what we're.
Speaker B:What we're currently in.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's interesting, as a mom, and I think I said this too, when we were talking to Kathy, like, you think you'll get to a point when you get older?
Speaker B:Like, all this stuff is so easy.
Speaker B:Like, you envision yourself, okay?
Speaker B:Like, for example, I love watching, like, old sitcoms, okay?
Speaker B:Like Home Improvement, okay?
Speaker B:Anytime those boys have an issue on Home Improvement and they talk to their mom, talk to Jill.
Speaker B:It's like she has the most refined answer.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:It's like you just have this perception that, okay, well, once I get that age, I'm going to respond to things perfectly.
Speaker B:I'm going to have the perfect motherly response.
Speaker B:I'm going to be so wise, and I'm going to know exactly what to say to help her, and I'm going to know exactly how.
Speaker B:I'm going to know how to help her navigate through this, and I'm still waiting on that to kick in.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker D:But your kid's hurting, so that means you're hurting.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:And so that's where a lot of that comes from, too, you know?
Speaker D:And to be able to separate, that's really hard.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And trying to protect you from experiencing the hurt that you've gone through.
Speaker B:Yes, because that's what I want to do, but I don't think it's possible.
Speaker B:Well, they kind of have to.
Speaker B:You can't.
Speaker D:But you have experience in wisdom, so don't use that as a negative thing when you're talking to her.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker D:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker D:Because, I mean, how else are we going to guide our kids if we didn't experience anything?
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And it's.
Speaker D:Everybody's experience is different and how you handle that.
Speaker D:But because you're older and wiser, more mature, that, like, you could.
Speaker D:You're recognizing, hey, I would handle it this way because in that moment of, like, no one's gonna hurt my kid, like, like, yeah, mama bear comes out.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker D:But you're recognizing that, which is good, because you didn't years ago.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:So you can recognize that.
Speaker D:But go, hey, I'm gonna guide you through this, but I'm gonna step back and here are the options that I would give you.
Speaker D:You choose which one you think is best and then see how.
Speaker D:And then.
Speaker D:And see how it plays out.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the hard part, though.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's the phase that I'm in, in mothering, I guess, is the.
Speaker B:As you.
Speaker B:As you would say, the apron strings are letting loose.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker B:She's having to make decisions.
Speaker B:And, you know, both of them, they're both getting at that age where they're having to make decisions and they're developing their character, and they're trying to figure out who they are, and they're trying to figure out how to be friends, and they're trying to figure out what they want in a friend.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:I guess it's just part of those growing pains.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker D:Well, you know, as we get older as women and we have this circle of friends, like, you know, I went through a really bad, like, breakup with one of my girlfriends of, like, 15 years.
Speaker D:It was heartbreaking.
Speaker D:Like, literally a heart, like, you know, a guy broke up with you and your heart broke, you know, but it was just like in that moment, even though that season of our friendship was almost 15 years.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:It was still like, you know, people are in your life for a reason and season, you know, And I really believe that there's very few people that are in your life that are there to stay for the long haul.
Speaker D:And that's really special that you and Stacy have that.
Speaker D:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker D:I have a friend of mine that's still in my life.
Speaker D:We met when we were 13.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And our kids are close and, you know, but it's still hard because when you get older, you don't think you're gonna have friendship problems as an older woman.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:So many things you don't think you're gonna experience when you get older.
Speaker B:And I'm still waiting on that.
Speaker B:Right on that age where everything clicks and is easy.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:Realizing it's not going to happen.
Speaker B:I guess.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Have you guys seen that?
Speaker C:That meme that's like the.
Speaker C:Nobody talks about the real miracle of Jesus is that he had 12 close friends in his 30s.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I feel that.
Speaker D:That, yes.
Speaker B:12 friends, period, at any age is a miracle.
Speaker B:Can we talk about the one that betrayed him?
Speaker A:I was say, still turned.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Judas was still there.
Speaker B:Well, and, you know, speaking of that, one of my favorite parts about when Jesus washed their feet and he was telling them it was before he was crucified, and he was telling them, one of you is going to betray me.
Speaker B:And he treated each of those disciples in such a way that none of them had a clue he was talking about.
Speaker B:They were like, is it going to be me?
Speaker B:Is it going to be me?
Speaker B:None of them was like, Judas, you know, not one of them knew who he was talking about.
Speaker B:That's convicting right there.
Speaker B:For to be able to treat even someone who's an enemy in such a way where the closest people to you didn't even know.
Speaker B:Don't even notice that you're treating that person differently.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So anyways.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's my current.
Speaker B:What I'm currently working through as a mother.
Speaker B:It's just interesting.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:I love about this is like I'm realizing just as you're talking about walking with your daughter through this, you know, technical definition of trauma is you're abandoned and powerless.
Speaker A:And that's not your daughter's story because you're with her through it.
Speaker A:And so even if the outcome of the conflict is not being or it, it doesn't resolve like you like the chess moves that you're making, you think it will resolve.
Speaker A:At the end of the day, she has you and Jesus and you're pointing her towards the cross.
Speaker A:And so I'm like, this conflict is good because she knows that she's not alone.
Speaker A:She's got you in her corner.
Speaker A:She's growing closer towards operating in conflict in a God honoring manner.
Speaker A:So I think that's great.
Speaker D:Thank you.
Speaker D:That's so awesome.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:That was beautiful.
Speaker B:I needed, I needed.
Speaker A:It's going to be a different story regardless, so.
Speaker B:Well, that's why I have to keep reminding myself is it's not.
Speaker B:It's her story, not mine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But that's what's hard.
Speaker A:And it'll be interesting to see how the Lord uses her conflicts to heal parts of you that you didn't even know needed healed.
Speaker A:And how 100.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're gonna have to keep going back to the Lord and, and be like, yeah, we need tissues around here.
Speaker A:What are we doing?
Speaker D:That's not a bad idea.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker A:You can use my address here.
Speaker B:I can already sense that for sure.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Like bringing up places that like, he's like, you need to.
Speaker A:The soil needs to be till.
Speaker A:Till through.
Speaker A:It needs to.
Speaker A:There's stuff that's still here.
Speaker A:Like, let's bring it up.
Speaker A:You know, pruning and planting different things in the season.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker C:Yeah, and I think like the season that you're at right now, we all experience at different stages under ages.
Speaker C:Like, yeah, I was just reading this morning the story of like Abraham when he had to sacrifice Isaac.
Speaker C:And as I'm reading through it, like, you're realizing one of the hardest things that we ever have to do as a parent is to let go of our kids.
Speaker C:And like, obviously God experienced that when he allowed his son to be sacrificed.
Speaker C:But just like that, putting yourself in that state of like, okay, my kids are at this age.
Speaker C:They're dealing with this conflict.
Speaker C:They're dealing with that one.
Speaker C:And we want to do everything in our power to fix it or control it.
Speaker C:We have to trust the Lord that he's going to use those things to empower them.
Speaker C:And build them and teach them and train them in ways that we had to grow and experience and learn on our own.
Speaker C:But like I got to thinking about, I wonder what Sarah was thinking because surely they walked away to go sacrifice and they did not have a ram with them.
Speaker C:So like what is she thinking?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:She's like sitting to sit there and.
Speaker C:Be like, I trust God, I trust my husband.
Speaker C:He's been faithful, God's been faithful and gave us this child.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or maybe she had no clue.
Speaker C:Who knows, you know?
Speaker C:But I just like it caught me this morning.
Speaker C:I thought about it kind of differently.
Speaker B:I've never thought about that story from her perspective.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:After being, you know, barren for so long and then having a son and having to let him go with his father, you know.
Speaker B:You know, she knows what they were doing.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker B:I mean she knows that they're going to go make a sacrifice.
Speaker B:Went up to that point, Abraham was going to do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Until the last moment.
Speaker D:Until the last moment he was going to do it.
Speaker C:I imagine God being, stop, don't go any further.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well that's what I've always said is the, in my opinion, the mark of a good leader is they will not ask you to do something that they're not willing to do themselves.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:And so that's, God demonstrates that for us with, like you said, with allowing Jesus to be sacrificed the way he was.
Speaker B:So when he's asking us to let go of our kids, it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't fall on a person who's not, it doesn't know what that feels like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's interesting.
Speaker B:Sometimes you don't think about, I mean you think about God as our father, but when it relates to those different things about your kids, very interesting.
Speaker A:Even like listening to you talk.
Speaker A:I feel like something that in my household with the two and a half year old and four year old that we're dealing with is like a desire for an obedient heart.
Speaker A:And I know that stretches across like all ages of children.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I'm really feeling it.
Speaker A:I'm like, not only do I want you to listen to me, but I want you to want to listen to me.
Speaker A:Not thinking about the journey up the mountain.
Speaker A:He like Abraham being willing to listen and up to the very minute and I'm like, he had an obedient heart.
Speaker A:He wanted to be obedient in that.
Speaker A:So that's kind of what we're dealing with.
Speaker A:With the two and a half and.
Speaker B:Four year old is all that Discipline.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Just, you know, heavy training years.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Because it's like, every day.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everywhere I'm like, don't hit your brother with a golf club.
Speaker A:Don't put that fork in the outlet.
Speaker B:Why, Mom?
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I remember those days.
Speaker B:The constant, like, retracing or not retracing, but, like.
Speaker B:What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker A:Redirecting.
Speaker B:Yes, the redirecting.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Does that end.
Speaker D:No, no, it's just in.
Speaker D:Just changes major as more.
Speaker D:More involved aspects of life.
Speaker D:Because that can be, like, really exhausting.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:I mean, been there, you know, when we've had the littles.
Speaker D:Been there.
Speaker D:Very exhausting.
Speaker D:My stage of life is more mental and emotional exhausting.
Speaker D:And that is the worst exhaustion than I would take your space just to.
Speaker B:Be, like, on this side of the.
Speaker D:Table telling you what to do, and you go sit down, and then you have a moment of freedom.
Speaker D:Like the mental and emotional, sometimes it doesn't let up.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:You think when they're sleeping, but no, it's still there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:When they're little, they're physically exhausting.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:But as they get older, it doesn't get easier.
Speaker D:No.
Speaker A:It just shifts.
Speaker B:It becomes.
Speaker D:It's a different hard.
Speaker B:Emotionally exhausting.
Speaker B:It's a different hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Physically, you're rested, but the rest of.
Speaker D:You is a no.
Speaker D:Sl.
Speaker B:Miss.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker D:You're internal.
Speaker B:The internal.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's probably equally as rewarding, though, now, too.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Like, seeing you.
Speaker B:I'm not there yet.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker C:Is it, Nikki, like, can't you be like, okay, this is really hard, but also, like, look at this man.
Speaker C:Look at.
Speaker C:I raised him.
Speaker D:Like, they do tend to surprise you at times.
Speaker D:No, I mean, my 21 year old, it's.
Speaker D:It's funny because he's been on his own for.
Speaker D:Since he was, you know, 18.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker D:It is coming full circle.
Speaker D:So we are seeing more of that.
Speaker D:Like, oh, hey, mom and dad.
Speaker D:You know, when I said this at 17, I didn't mean it, like, because now I'm living.
Speaker D:He's come to us more times than probably the last last year or so.
Speaker D:He's just been like, oh, you know, y' all are right about this, and.
Speaker D:Or like, thank you for doing this in this way, even though I gave you pushback, because it's helped me look at that maturity.
Speaker D:Do this now, but at the time, they don't realize it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:And what's funny is that, like, my middle child, who is 17, is doing the exact same thing.
Speaker D:That the 21 year old did.
Speaker D:Like, I can't wait to be out on my own and have the freedom.
Speaker D:And you know, my 21 year old's like, no, you don't ride this train as long as you can.
Speaker B:You know.
Speaker D:And so it's just funny because like when you're going through it with your oldest, it's like, oh my God, you know, because, you know, my oldest used to say, I cannot wait to get 18 or you know, get out on my own.
Speaker D:Whether it was like they were living on his own full time job, college, whatever, and be like, you know, I don't, I don't want a timer on Xbox anymore.
Speaker D:Or like, you know, I don't want to have to come in at 11 o' clock at night for a curfew.
Speaker D:You know those types of teenager things.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:I can't wait to have no boundaries.
Speaker D:And I can't wait to do whatever.
Speaker D:It's like, hey, that comes with a cost.
Speaker D:Absolutely.
Speaker D:And they're like, no, the freedom is just so much more important to them.
Speaker D:And then that freedom came and he's like, oh, I don't have any money, I have bills to pay.
Speaker D:I have to go to the grocery store, I have to cook for myself.
Speaker B:Lots of responsibilities come with that freedom.
Speaker D:And so it's just funny because he's just like, you know, he'll, he's now FaceTiming me walking through the grocery store like, mom can, is this what I need to get for this recipe?
Speaker D:Blah, blah, blah, you know.
Speaker B:So anyway, well, when they tell you like, oh, you only have X amount of years with your kids and da, da, da, that's a lie.
Speaker B:And Nikki's proof of that because her boys, like her oldest son still does everything with them.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like I went to a soccer game for her middle and youngest son on Thursday and her oldest son came with his girlfriend.
Speaker B:We all went, we had dinner beforehand and he's still there and just as much engaged in the family.
Speaker A:Okay, so let's put a caveat.
Speaker D:What?
Speaker A:Let's do a caveat to that statement.
Speaker A:They you only have a certain amount of time if you do it wrong.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because you know, like Nikki, you've done something that want your boys still want to be near you and that ability to call you, you know, that's not always board hurry up though too is.
Speaker C:You can do everything right that every person is, you know, they're created their own way.
Speaker C:Like you may do everything right and they're still going to be like, peace out.
Speaker B:I still know you yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker D:We've always tried to cultivate a encouraging and supportive titan knit thing with the five of us.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And so it's like, well, your brother has this game.
Speaker D:We're all going.
Speaker D:Like, you don't get to stay home because you don't want to go.
Speaker D:Like you're going to support your brother.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Now, like with my oldest who has a full time job and he's living on his own and he's not around, it's like, hey, here are the boys scheduled, you know, and he's like, no, I'm coming to this game.
Speaker D:This game, in this game, when he can.
Speaker D:You know, there are some games where it's like, yeah, you know, you don't need to travel an hour, you know, to go watch them.
Speaker D:But it was just like, we set that so early that it's like, whatever the boys were in, that's what, that was our life.
Speaker D:Like, everybody supported and it's neat to see now because, like the middle one and the youngest one are like, is Connor going to be there?
Speaker D:Is Connor going to be there?
Speaker D:Okay, take that out.
Speaker D:But is he going to be there?
Speaker D:Is he going to be there?
Speaker D:Is he?
Speaker D:Is my older brother going to be there?
Speaker D:You know, kind of thing.
Speaker D:But so it's kind of cool because now they expect it and so when they don't know he's coming and they seem in the stands, it's like you can just tell, like they kind of.
Speaker B:Light up or whatever.
Speaker D:So it's kind of cool.
Speaker B:That's so sweet.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I think my stage right now or the thing that I'm struggling the most then is education for my kids.
Speaker C:Like, because we've homeschooled, they've never been in public school.
Speaker C:I don't think there's a right or wrong way.
Speaker C:I think every family, you know, operates the way they need to and it works.
Speaker C:But I feel a strong conviction to homeschool my kids.
Speaker C:But I struggle with not feeling like I am qualified.
Speaker C:I'm not enough.
Speaker C:I don't know how to teach them things that I didn't honestly learn.
Speaker C:I was homeschooled but not super well.
Speaker C:And so like I, I did not feel confident to go to college, so I didn't go to college.
Speaker C:And I don't want my kids to feel that.
Speaker C:And so I'm, I'm carrying that and I'm like fearful that they're not going to have a great education and they won't feel confident to take the next step in their life if they choose to go to college.
Speaker C:They may not, I don't know.
Speaker C:But just we're weighing a lot of, just the pros and cons of, okay, do we do, you know, half private school, half homeschool?
Speaker C:Do we do fully homeschool?
Speaker C:Do we, you know, join a different co op?
Speaker C:Just all the different questions are like plaguing me right now and just wanting to make the right choice.
Speaker C:But again, it's like, is there really a right choice?
Speaker C:I think if we're willing to lay our kids down and say, you know, lord, you guide, you lead, then he's gonna, he's gonna direct the path and he's gonna provide the ram per se.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker C:That, that's where I'm at.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I remember when we homeschooled, that was a fear too.
Speaker B:Is, are we doing enough?
Speaker B:Are we doing enough?
Speaker B:Are we doing the right math curriculum?
Speaker B:Are we doing the right language?
Speaker B:You know, should they be doing this or whatever.
Speaker B:I mean, I remember that that's a hard, that's a hard thing to navigate.
Speaker A:Through, especially with multiple children.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:It's so.
Speaker C:They all have so many kids.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So many different needs and.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I think, I don't know, the college thing, we talk about it with our daughters.
Speaker B:I don't want to.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I've heard so many like entrepreneurship people say, unless you're going to school to be a doctor or an attorney.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, is it really.
Speaker B:I mean, now Nikki's.
Speaker B:Nikki's sons did public school and her oldest son chose not to go to college.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker D:So there was very.
Speaker D:I'll share this real quick, but there was very confirming affirmation that he got about a month ago.
Speaker D:And we were at a soccer game and there's another family that their son's on the team and he has an older brother who went to high school with my oldest.
Speaker D:He was just a couple years older.
Speaker D:But uh, my son just recently got a full time job at a logistics company and he's really enjoying it, which has been great.
Speaker D:Cause it's like his first big boy job.
Speaker D:You know, he's truly an adult now and, and his friend from high school had went to UTC and graduated, but he just got a job at a logistics company in the same like, you know, role or whatever.
Speaker D:And so for Connor, not that that was bad at all because I mean, who knows what the Lord has for his friends, you know, like with that background.
Speaker D:But for my oldest, it was just like I didn't have to go through four years of school that I hate.
Speaker D:Cause he hated school.
Speaker D:He did well, but he just was like, this is.
Speaker D:I'm done after, you know, high school.
Speaker B:Just to hear that.
Speaker D:That he was kind of in the same spot as somebody else who had.
Speaker D:Who had went before him and graduated, and he just felt like that.
Speaker B:That was.
Speaker D:He was like, oh, okay.
Speaker D:You know, I don't feel as bad because it's a very hard decision.
Speaker D:And as, like, just society in general, like, you go to college after high school, that's just what you do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:And when you don't, you're frowned.
Speaker D:It's frowned upon.
Speaker D:Because when he was a senior, I had to have a conversation with the counselor that was like his senior counselor.
Speaker D:And she was like, you know, um, he's telling me he wants to do, you know, like, music production, that sort of thing, you know, because he's a dj, so that interests him.
Speaker D:And so she was like, mtsu, and we need to get him this, this, and this.
Speaker D:And I'm like, ma' am, he's not going.
Speaker D:Yeah, well, I think he'll change his mind.
Speaker D:And I'm like, you're not hearing me.
Speaker D:He's not going.
Speaker D:He does not want to go.
Speaker D:And she's like, oh.
Speaker D:I mean, it was just so like.
Speaker B:Oh, did you feel, like, blacklisted?
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker D:A little bit.
Speaker D:A little bit, yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:Just from other perspectives, especially people within, like, you know, the school system.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But from other parents.
Speaker A:Did you have that?
Speaker B:Or.
Speaker A:And teachers or school officials, like, what?
Speaker A:You're not gonna, like, encourage him to do the right thing?
Speaker D:Yeah, and I'll tell you, I got caught up in that.
Speaker D:And he humbled me real quick.
Speaker D:My oldest did.
Speaker D:It was his senior year, and they do senior night.
Speaker D:He played football four years, so senior night was a big deal.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And so.
Speaker D:But they do all the introductions for the seniors.
Speaker D:Like, you know, their little, like, bio, like, played for four years was a part of, you know, the regional championship in whatever year, and they go through.
Speaker D:And it's like his plans for blah, blah, blah.
Speaker D:Well, he had applied and had been accepted to utc, mtsu, you know, all the things.
Speaker D:And it was just like, just say you're gonna do that.
Speaker D:You know what I mean?
Speaker D:And he was like, no, because I'm not doing it.
Speaker D:I'm gonna.
Speaker D:And so he was like, that he wanted to pursue a career in DJing.
Speaker D:Is, you know, at the time, what he thought his life.
Speaker D:And it still may turn that way.
Speaker D:Cause he's still doing it.
Speaker D:But I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker D:And it just kind of like, it didn't embarrass me, but I was just kinda like, oh, no.
Speaker D:Like, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:And the, when they announced that the people that clapped and hollered for that We've Got it on Video was just so like, oh, that's really cool.
Speaker D:You know, they did the same as they did with somebody going off to major and like, you know, nursing or whatever.
Speaker B:St.
Speaker B:Connor did our music for this.
Speaker D:Podcast and he did do our music for this podcast.
Speaker D:So.
Speaker D:But anyway, I say that to say that he was like, no, I'm not going to lie because to fit the mold, you know, so.
Speaker D:So that humbled me and I was like, all right, I won't say another word, you know, but yeah.
Speaker C:And I don't like if my kids want to go to college.
Speaker C:That's great.
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't.
Speaker C:I am fine with that.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like you're like, I just want them to feel confident.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:To make a decision.
Speaker C:Feel like they can if they want to.
Speaker B:I never realized that that was something that you.
Speaker B:But that was why you didn't.
Speaker B:Is because you didn't have the confidence.
Speaker B:I do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I did not feel like I could.
Speaker C:I wanted to go to Bible college then.
Speaker C:I didn't do that for some reason.
Speaker C:I mean, I had so many plans for myself.
Speaker C:I want to be a missionary.
Speaker C:I want to go to cosmetology school.
Speaker C:I want to be a girl.
Speaker D:If I look at you, you look.
Speaker A:Like you didn't even need to go to cosmetology school.
Speaker A:You look amazing all the time.
Speaker B:She didn't know how to go to cosmic.
Speaker A:No, she needs to be teaching the school.
Speaker C:Gosh, thanks guys.
Speaker B:Well, and now, now you're, you are a counselor.
Speaker B:I mean, so you're the only, you're the only one that's actually qualified to like tell people what to do around here.
Speaker C:Barely.
Speaker B:As far as this table is concerned.
Speaker D:True.
Speaker B:As far as the paper qualification, it.
Speaker C:Turns out college wasn't a big deal.
Speaker C:Like I was able, I got a really good job when I was freshly married and was able to kind of work up into a position that should have had a four year degree and they gave it to me anyway.
Speaker C:And I loved that job until, you know, kids wrecked all the things, so.
Speaker C:But you know, no more money, no more adult time.
Speaker D:But you know what's funny?
Speaker D:When, when my oldest was back in the fall, like really wanting to change his current job because it wasn't where he should like build a career skills on, you know, it was just something that it was like the stepping stone to get him out on his own, which was great.
Speaker D:It was first season, right.
Speaker D:And when he was like, mom, I really, I think I need to find something.
Speaker D:I've got to land somewhere.
Speaker D:Of course, like, as a mom that sends you down a rabbit hole.
Speaker D:So it's like I'm helping him look on, like, indee, you know, just seeing what's out there based on his interest.
Speaker D:And it's funny because, like, my husband and I were talking.
Speaker D:There seems like there's been this shift to people wanting to hire experience, not a four year degree.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker D:And so it's like, okay.
Speaker D:So like, instead of praying for him specifically, like, okay, Lord, he doesn't have a four year degree.
Speaker D:So what.
Speaker D:What pool does he get thrown in because he doesn't have that.
Speaker D:And then it was like, oh.
Speaker D:And then it just shifted.
Speaker D:Like, okay, Lord, let somebody take a chance on him so he can build those skills and that experience.
Speaker D:And then when he landed this job, it was like, oh, goodness.
Speaker D:If you, you know, can.
Speaker D:Can last there for a few years, you're gonna build some serious skills that is gonna take you further.
Speaker B:So build great references.
Speaker B:Yeah, those types of jobs give you great references.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Cause I had a similar story.
Speaker B:I did a little bit of college when I got out of high school school, but John and I got married when I was 19.
Speaker A:So you did it the right way.
Speaker B:So we ended up moving to Sweetwater to help start a church.
Speaker B:And so I had to get a job.
Speaker B:And so I got a job at a local newspaper in advertising.
Speaker B:And that skyrocketed my career till I had to quit my job because I was throwing out so much with El.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So we all have different paths.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:But I think you're.
Speaker B:I've met your children, Stacy, and they're all super bright.
Speaker B:And better yet, they have great personalities.
Speaker B:Sometimes I think we don't put enough emphasis on social skills.
Speaker C:Right, that's true.
Speaker B:Because I think so.
Speaker C:I learned yesterday none of them have any.
Speaker C:Let me tell you, they could have served yesterday.
Speaker C:And Easter Sunday.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, we're coming off Easter Sunday.
Speaker C:Our children's ministry director or family director was like, trying to engage in conversation with my five children who are all standing there and they're literally staring at him stone cold.
Speaker C:Not a word out of their mouths.
Speaker A:Someone that they know very well, too.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker C:They're usually a lot friendlier than this.
Speaker C:And they're just stood there like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker B:No personality.
Speaker A:Are you the risen Lord?
Speaker B:They have personality.
Speaker B:I'VE met all of them.
Speaker C:I think they just had a bad B.O.
Speaker D:Morning.
Speaker A:Maybe that's all it was.
Speaker D:I mean, maybe.
Speaker B:But your middle son's my favorite.
Speaker C:They are fun, though.
Speaker B:He's there.
Speaker B:He's got personality for all five of them.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker A:Okay, Stacy, what I was thinking about earlier when you were talking about, are you doing enough?
Speaker A:Is this right for the season kind of thing?
Speaker A:I'm, like, thinking back to Megan and all of us, like, God is constantly asking us to step into obedience.
Speaker A:And I think just like you were talking about with your oldest son, Nikki, it's like you have this plan, and you're like, okay, you go to.
Speaker A:You go to high school, and then you go to college, and that's just what needs to happen.
Speaker A:But in reality, like, all of us have individual children.
Speaker A:We all have individual families, and it can change at any minute.
Speaker A:And just having a heart posture of listening, like, what is the Lord asking us to do in this season with this specific child?
Speaker A:And it can be down to the nitty gritty.
Speaker A:Like, God cares about the details.
Speaker A:So it's like, let's.
Speaker A:Maybe this one child doesn't need to focus so heavily on reading for the next three weeks.
Speaker A:Like, it can be so nitty gritty and just constantly refocusing our desire to have our heart, to be obedient to.
Speaker A:You know, like, I'm like, how do I train my child to have an obedient heart?
Speaker A:And I'm like, lord, how do I train myself to want to be obedient to what you're asking me to, even if it goes against what everyone else is the expectation of how you show up and do motherhood or wifehood or friendship.
Speaker A:Because there's times, too, even in friendship, like, we're asked to do things in friendship that feel like, wow, we should definitely not do this.
Speaker A:But if you have confirmation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Trusting the Lord with it and.
Speaker A:And like, you were talking about, like, he will provide the land or ram.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:That was dreadful.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:I feel like you bring.
Speaker B:You bring a lot of logic.
Speaker B:Oh, doesn't she?
Speaker C:Yes, she does.
Speaker B:You bring a lot of logic.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker B:I like how you.
Speaker B:You're able to tile that in.
Speaker D:She put a bow on it.
Speaker A:She did.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:All right, so I think we.
Speaker A:We want to end on a fun kind of question, right?
Speaker B:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker A:Let me ask you this.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:What is your biggest pet peeve?
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh, Ren.
Speaker B:My biggest pet peeve.
Speaker B:It's gonna.
Speaker B:It's gonna get us a lot of emails.
Speaker A:Bring them on.
Speaker B:Bring them on possibly a lot of hate.
Speaker A:Oh, hate.
Speaker A:This is episode three.
Speaker A:Are we ready for that early?
Speaker D:You want haters that early?
Speaker A:Yeah, bring on.
Speaker A:Bring on the haters.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker B:Well, I will say I once called in on a radio show with this and got blasted by the dj.
Speaker A:Oh, shoot.
Speaker D:Oh.
Speaker A:Everyone buckle in.
Speaker D:Brace yourselves.
Speaker B:Okay, so let me figure out how I'm gonna word this.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:I cannot believe I'm about to say this on a recording.
Speaker B:My biggest pet peeve are people who ride bikes on roads where there is no bike lane.
Speaker B:Let me say this, okay?
Speaker A:That was way better than I was expecting.
Speaker A:Me too.
Speaker A:I can breathe again.
Speaker B:Oh, but you say something like that on Facebook, you will get born into pieces.
Speaker B:Let me.
Speaker B:Let me preface this.
Speaker B:Where I live, I live in a very rural area where there are mountain roads, roads that have no shoulder.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Roads that are curvy.
Speaker A:Blind spots.
Speaker B:Lots of blind spots.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:No path, no way to pass, no way to see ahead to pass.
Speaker B:And it seems that that attracts people who want to ride bikes.
Speaker B:And in my opinion.
Speaker B:This is my opinion.
Speaker B:If you're gonna do that, maybe go to a place that encourages bikes with vehicles.
Speaker B:Maybe find a road that has a bike lane.
Speaker B:Maybe go to a park, maybe.
Speaker B:Because here's my thing.
Speaker B:I feel like, especially as, like, a female, we.
Speaker B:We work really hard to, like, not get murdered, right?
Speaker B:Every day.
Speaker B:Like, you.
Speaker B:If you get in your car after, like, a Walmart trip, you don't sit and you just lollygag.
Speaker D:You're looking at your surroundings.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:Yeah, you leave if you need to do something on your phone or whatever.
Speaker B:You go to a different location.
Speaker B:You maybe check your backseat, look under your vehicle, aware of your surroundings.
Speaker B:Don't talk to.
Speaker B:You know, we do a lot of things, like not get murdered or kidnapped.
Speaker B:If I'm.
Speaker B:I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I'm gonna tie this together.
Speaker B:I promise.
Speaker B:If I'm driving in my car and I look down for two seconds, I mean, can any of you confidently say that when you drive, you pay attention 100 of the time?
Speaker A:There's a lot of multitasking going on.
Speaker C:There is a lot of.
Speaker A:So something is also always going to suffer while you're doing something.
Speaker B:Have you ever, like.
Speaker B:Have you ever driven home and been like, I don't even remember the drive here?
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Yep, that's happened.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker A:Pilot.
Speaker B:Yeah, so if I'm driving and say, I zone out for two.
Speaker B:Whatever, and there's a biker, and it's like, you should make it harder for me to murder you.
Speaker B:Like, like if you hit someone on a bike that.
Speaker B:I mean, you've obviously, you've ruined someone's life.
Speaker B:Your own life is ruined.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:If you actually injure or, God forbid, murder someone who's.
Speaker B:Who you've collided with on a bike or something, it's just like, make it hard for me to murder you.
Speaker B:Make it hard for me to run you over in my car.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Don't ride your bike on a curvy two lane road where I can't see around you, where there's no shoulder for correction for you or for me.
Speaker D:And then you're just stuck behind them the whole way.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Anyways, that is an extremely unpopular pet peeve, and that's probably a strong one to come out of the gate.
Speaker A:Okay, well, what I'm hearing is it's rooted in a foot of bird.
Speaker A:No, it's rooted in fear because you don't want to hurt anyone else or your life to be altered based on someone else's decision.
Speaker A:You do this, which makes sense.
Speaker A:I mean, you're like, there is an alternative way to do this where everyone could avoid this potential pain.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:So that shows that I'm a kind, considerate person.
Speaker A:I do think it's because I know your heart.
Speaker A:I think it's coming from a place of being.
Speaker B:How do you do this?
Speaker C:Until you're on the phone with her while she's driving.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:And said cyclist is on the road.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And then you really see.
Speaker B:Oh, I've taken pictures.
Speaker B:The pet peeve come out the pet peeve.
Speaker B:Yeah, but I mean, that's coming from.
Speaker A:A place of like, you're doing this to yourself.
Speaker A:Why are you doing this?
Speaker A:You're gonna get hurt.
Speaker A:You're gonna ruin someone else's life.
Speaker A:Like, make better decisions.
Speaker A:Go somewhere where you're welcome and safe.
Speaker D:But you're not welcome here.
Speaker B:There's a million places to ride your bike.
Speaker B:Curvy two lane roads with no shoulder is not one of them.
Speaker A:Okay, well, if that has a little bit of fear based into it, I'm thinking about my personal pet peeve.
Speaker A:This one should not be as controversial.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker A:Although I think people might agree with.
Speaker B:This, we can't all commit home.
Speaker A:Okay, so.
Speaker A:And I think mine's a little rooted in fear too.
Speaker B:Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker A:Just a little bit.
Speaker A:Because I get the major ick and then I get very angry at the person who committed this crime.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker D:Oh, man.
Speaker A:You ready for this?
Speaker A:Gum in inappropriate places.
Speaker A:Chewed gum.
Speaker A:Forget it.
Speaker A:I think if you stick chewed Gum somewhere where I'm gonna feel it later or I'm gonna step in it.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker A:My capacity to handle is zero.
Speaker B:Like a parking lot.
Speaker B:Like, stepping on.
Speaker A:If I step in someone's gum, I have, like, a worst week of my life.
Speaker A:Like, I just start to be like.
Speaker A:Like, I am so disgusted.
Speaker A:It's, like, so sticky.
Speaker A:It stays with me.
Speaker A:I'm, like, walking.
Speaker A:Like, I am, like, constantly reminded.
Speaker A:Like, this person was, like, so incredibly selfish.
Speaker A:Like, why did they not care about.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Just put it in garbage.
Speaker A:Put it in a piece of paper, fold it in a leaf, swallow it.
Speaker A:I don't know what you need to do with it, but just don't just.
Speaker B:Sit on the ground.
Speaker A:It is like, this little chewy curse waiting for me to just find it.
Speaker A:And, like, you know, you're, like, sitting at, like, a movie theater or something, and you go to move the arm.
Speaker B:Forget it.
Speaker A:I got to leave.
Speaker A:Or, like, your hand is gross.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Under the table at a restaurant, like, all of these.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's something that could be so easily avoidable.
Speaker A:That gum wall, where is it?
Speaker A:In Portland, Oregon, maybe.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is that where it's at?
Speaker A:Someone was like, are you gonna go there?
Speaker B:I'm like, absolutely not.
Speaker C:A gum tree on Stone Mountain?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:Stone Mountain.
Speaker C:At the park, there's a gum tree.
Speaker B:That'S just so interesting.
Speaker B:Well, didn't we have one in that sense?
Speaker B:Sears elevator at Northgate Mall.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker D:I don't think so.
Speaker A:She did it.
Speaker A:She put all her gum there.
Speaker B:Look at her.
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:Cuz I remember.
Speaker C:Well, Sears is gone.
Speaker B:Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker B:I remember because they're doing all that construction.
Speaker B:People were posting on Facebook about the gum wall being gone.
Speaker A:Why does this, like, congregate people together?
Speaker B:It was like you go in the Sears elevator, and it was like, when the door would open some.
Speaker B:I can't remember.
Speaker B:It's was something with the elevator in the.
Speaker B:In the old Sears, there was a gum wall, and people were talking about it when they tore all that down.
Speaker A:Okay, all you listeners out there, I'm going to need y' all to chime in, and you can confess.
Speaker A:I won't come for you.
Speaker A:Where is the strangest place you've put a piece of chewed gum?
Speaker B:The strangest place?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or are you like, oh, I'll throw it out the window?
Speaker A:Like, are you a gum contributor?
Speaker A:You know, I mean, you have to.
Speaker D:Come out the window.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:What's really gross is you go to, like, spit it out in, like, the Woods.
Speaker C:And it like hits the edge of the window and goes back in your car.
Speaker C:Have you experienced that?
Speaker C:Because I just did that two days ago.
Speaker B:No, you did not.
Speaker C:Yeah, and I was like, I gotta pull over.
Speaker C:I gotta get the gu out.
Speaker A:I'm not even gonna say what I think I should say to you right now.
Speaker D:She's not getting any.
Speaker B:I definitely throw mine out of the car.
Speaker C:My car is actually super clean.
Speaker B:But maybe her is for five.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Not even her five kids.
Speaker B:If you had just a husband.
Speaker B:It's clean.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We don't allow food.
Speaker A:Everyone think about this next time you go to put your comments more.
Speaker A:Just put in a piece of paper.
Speaker A:It's really fine.
Speaker A:You know, throw it away.
Speaker B:I just swallow them on.
Speaker C:Mine is really dumb.
Speaker C:My pet peeve is one that I've actually grown in over the years.
Speaker C:I've had to or else my.
Speaker C:I would spontaneously combust.
Speaker C:I cannot handle dirty dishes.
Speaker C:Being in the sink when you go to bed, like, it stresses me out to no end.
Speaker C:And like, to the point where early on in our marriage we got in a full blown, like, yelling match because I would not come to bed because I needed to do the dishes.
Speaker C:And he's like, it's fine.
Speaker C:They will be there tomorrow.
Speaker C:You don't have to go to work.
Speaker C:Come lay down.
Speaker C:And I could not.
Speaker C:I, like, it was taking everything in me not to just like, run through the house screaming at the top of my lungs.
Speaker B:Because you don't want to start off a new day with dirty.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:And now that we have so many kids, I will confess.
Speaker C:Last night we got home late after Easter and I did not do the dishes.
Speaker C:And I'm changing my mind.
Speaker C:But this morning as I left, left, I'm like, he has to deal with it today and I don't.
Speaker B:Did you tell him, like, you're not back home?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker D:Please don't have data.
Speaker A:So is the pet peeve waking up to a dirty sink or is it.
Speaker C:It's one knowing that they're sitting in the sink.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:Probably, you know, some sort of germs manifesting there.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:And then waking up knowing that the kitchen isn't clean.
Speaker C:Like, I.
Speaker C:I want to have my cup of coffee.
Speaker C:I want the counters to be clean.
Speaker C:Like, I don't want to see any mess because I want to start the day fresh.
Speaker B:You know, get two fold.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Twofold pet peeve right there.
Speaker C:But I've gotten better.
Speaker C:Like, I used to, for real have meltdowns about it.
Speaker B:That's interesting.
Speaker B:I didn't know that about you, either.
Speaker B:I'm learning so many new things about you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Now I'm gonna, like, think about my dishes in the morning in the sink and be like, stacy would not like.
Speaker B:This, or, no, we're going to take pictures and send them to her.
Speaker D:See, I'm coming with you, though.
Speaker D:But I had to.
Speaker D:It wasn't a pet peeve, but I like having like, a.
Speaker D:You know, like, there's something about walking into the kitchen because, you know, I don't know about y' all, but I feel like that's the only room I'm ever in usually is that day.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker B:All day.
Speaker D:But, like, so in the first thing in the morning, you're getting kids ready, you know, for the day or school or whatever.
Speaker D:It's like, you know, it's just fresh.
Speaker D:But I had to let that go because a lot of times we run our dishwasher at night, but we don't do the heated dry.
Speaker D:We let it air dry overnight to not have a heated dry.
Speaker D:Okay, we do that.
Speaker A:Wait, why is a heated dry bad?
Speaker D:Well, a lot of times we'll put, like, plastics and stuff on the bottom, and we've had things melt, and so it was just easier just to, like, try it at the end of the day.
Speaker D:I mean, every now and then, I'll use it, but I find that, like, they dry better overnight than they do with the heated dry on.
Speaker D:In my experience, like, if I'll have to do it, like, during the day, but we usually try to let air dry, but.
Speaker D:And then it's like, well, I don't want to stand here and hand wash all of the dishes that are in the sink.
Speaker D:So I've had to be like, okay, I have to let the dishwasher air dry.
Speaker D:It's fine.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, unload it in the dishwasher and the dishwasher is ready to go.
Speaker C:Like, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker C:But if it's like, the dishwasher is full of clean dishes and the sink is full of.
Speaker B:You're doing wash.
Speaker C:I cannot.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:That's funny.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So what's your biggest pet peeve, Nikki?
Speaker D:Oh, gosh.
Speaker D:It's really dumb.
Speaker A:It's really done.
Speaker A:We need a dumb one.
Speaker B:Email?
Speaker D:I don't think so.
Speaker D:It's very.
Speaker D:It's a very personal thing, so.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:Do not, under any circumstance, move my seat in my car once I get out.
Speaker A:That's a hard one, because no one knows that.
Speaker B:Well, do you have, like, a setting, like, where you can save your.
Speaker D:Yeah, but when you teach boys to drive your car, they mess with the setting, and then it never gets back the way you like it.
Speaker D:And so, like, you constantly are.
Speaker D:You know, because they'll accidentally save the wrong setting.
Speaker D:You know, I'm like, I'm a two.
Speaker D:I'm a two.
Speaker B:Oh, you're two.
Speaker A:Don't touch the two.
Speaker D:Don't touch.
Speaker D:I pick two friends.
Speaker D:Number one friends.
Speaker B:One on the.
Speaker D:And then there's a third option now, or is only.
Speaker D:I have three.
Speaker D:So the.
Speaker D:The boys were three.
Speaker D:Like, that's your option when you get in the car.
Speaker D:Hit three.
Speaker D:But they would have to adjust it depending on who was, you know, learning to drive or whatever.
Speaker D:But, oh, my gosh.
Speaker D:Like, don't.
Speaker D:Don't accidentally hit two.
Speaker D:I will lose my mind.
Speaker D:That literally happened when I was in the car with my youngest about a year ago.
Speaker D:I just.
Speaker D:I was like this.
Speaker D:Because I can never get it back the same.
Speaker A:I'm so worried.
Speaker A:My neighbor had, like, an emergency in the middle of the road the other day, and I hopped in her car, and she's very, like.
Speaker A:She's just short.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I couldn't even fit into her seat.
Speaker A:And I was like, oh, no.
Speaker A:I moved her seat, and I didn't move it back.
Speaker A:I'm like, I parked in her driveway, and she's probably like, like.
Speaker A:I'm like, do more people have this?
Speaker D:I don't know why that gets under my skin so bad, but it does.
Speaker C:It bothers my husband, too.
Speaker D:Does he?
Speaker B:Oh, great.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:So, no, I'm not alone.
Speaker A:Emily, I am so sorry I moved your car seat the other day.
Speaker A:Please forgive me.
Speaker B:So you know what that does in my head?
Speaker B:Like, the way my brain's thinking right now?
Speaker B:I can't wait to get in her car and press the one.
Speaker A:Megan Wood.
Speaker B:Megan Wood.
Speaker B:She's like, stacy, a picture of my dishes in my sink and send you a picture of gum.
Speaker B:Like, my brain is just.
Speaker A:I would never do that to any of you guys.
Speaker A:We're all gonna get on a bike and, like, wait, we're gonna be riding a bike in front of Megan as she's trying to get somewhere fast?
Speaker B:Send me.
Speaker B:And so many.
Speaker C:Have you seen.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:No, no, you go.
Speaker C:Have you seen the video of the lady who reprograms her husband's seat to go all the way?
Speaker C:Want to do it so bad.
Speaker C:She's like.
Speaker A:It just keeps going and going.
Speaker C:It's the best.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker D:Are they sitting there and it starts moving, and then they, like, don't know what to do?
Speaker D:Like they're, they're paralyzed and he's like going all the way.
Speaker A:If that happened to me, my, my, I would just start honking.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:The girls would honk.
Speaker B:The girls would honk.
Speaker D:Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
Speaker B:And that's a wrap on this episode of the Wise her podcast.
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